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#1 2007-04-13 17:50:09

bblyman2000
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From: Ronkonkoma NY
Registered: 2007-04-12
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RSI Injuries, Using a stand to make playing longer shakuhachi's easier

Hello to all the shakuhachi fanatics!
   
      Anyone out there having any type of RSI symptoms such as numbness or tingling in the hands would do themselves a big favor by checking out this book by Barbara Paull entitled "The Athletic Musician".  Better yet go see her.  She's located in New Market, Ontario, Canada.  The trip is well worth it !!!  For the last five or so years I've been having numbness and tingling in the ring finger and pinky of my right hand(it started one day after I was hammering for a few hours).  I was able to keep it at bay by doing yoga as well as an occasional chiropractic adjustment along with some massage.  Having been sick for about a year I stopped doing any yoga.  Needless to say things got worse.  I decided to go to a physical therapist who specialized in these types of problems.  It only got worse to where now all my fingers and thumb were involved.  Fortunately none of this stopped me from playing upright bass, shakuhachi or bansuri, but at times it would be uncomfortable to say the least.  Medical massage, Rolfing and The Alexander Technique helped get me basically back to where I started before physical therapy.  Still not satisfied I found Barbara Paull on the internet and made the trip up to Canada.  I should mention that over the last five years I had been to two neurologists (one that stated after an EMG that the problem was in my elbow and somewhat in my wrist), and orthopedic surgeon, a chiropractor who specializes in neurological problems and two physical therapists. 
     On the first day Barbara talked to me for about an hour and diagnosed the problem stating that the problem was strictly in the neck.  The next hour she examined me and confirmed her diagnosis.  On the second day she spent another two hours with me examined me some more confirming that I had neither cubital tunnel syndrome (nerve entrapment in the elbow) or carpal tunnel syndrome (nerve entrapment in the wrist) it was all in my neck.  I had specifically asked the neurologist who did the EMG if the problem could be in my neck and he said no it's not!!!  She also watched me play various different instruments.  She showed me what needed to be done to eventually get rid of the problem. 
      I noticed a big difference after only a few days.  It's been about two months now and I just keep getting better.  I'm hoping that I will be eventually be able to get rid of the problem totally.  I would also recommend the Alexander Technique which in itself is very helpful. 
      Barbara's book is a MUST READ for every musician whether you have problems or want to prevent them!!!  Her website is:http://www.stouffvillemusiciansinjuriesclinic.ca/.
The price of the visits are extremely reasonable, probably less then one visit with a specialist.  The hotel a few minutes away from the clinic is also very reasonable.
      Anyone who would like to talk to me about my experience can reach me at:
bblyman2000@yahoo.com.

     
      A good idea when sitting is to use a seiza bench.  It puts your lower back in the proper sitting position and will help with proper alignment of your head and neck.  Here's a site that has some excellent benches with many variations: http://www.meditationbench.com/Benches.html
      Also very important is to use a music stand so that your head is in the proper position.
You don not want  your head bending  forward and down creating the potential for nerve entrapment.  I use the Hamilton 400N
(http://www.hamiltonstands.com/guitar_stands.htm).
  Just let the legs of the stand lie flat on the floor.  It works great!
      Also for all those people who have a problem playing the larger shakuhachi due to the weight here's a solution to your problem.  It will probably take you all of five minutes to get used to.  Buy yourself a Hamilton guitar stand model KB31 (it's the least expensive model they make).  Take the part that normally holds the guitar neck and bend it back so that it is almost parallel to the ceiling(or where you best feel is the proper resting position for the root end of your shakuhachi).  Raise it to a height where you can keep your eyes level and your head and neck in a neutral position.  Then use some duct tape to secure it in this position. 

     Good Luck everyone!!!!  I can be reached at:
bblyman2000@yahoo.com.  Be Well, Bob Blyman.

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#2 2007-04-14 07:19:44

radi0gnome
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From: Kingston NY
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Re: RSI Injuries, Using a stand to make playing longer shakuhachi's easier

That was a very interesting post. Sorry to get off the topic of shakuhachi here, but as far as unatural neck positions, of the instruments you listed bansuri flute is difficult. Do you have any tips other than just make sure your posture is good? It's easy to keep good posture with transverse flute for the first 10 minutes or so, but that right arm tires fast and has a tendency to start getting lower quickly.


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#3 2007-04-15 07:27:33

Yungflutes
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From: New York City
Registered: 2005-10-08
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Re: RSI Injuries, Using a stand to make playing longer shakuhachi's easier

Hi Bob, Thanks for your posting. 
Developing a healthy approach to playing an instrument is very important. As mentioned before on another Health thread warming up for playing to avoid injury is quite necessary for the well-being of the body, just as it is for athletes and dancers. There are lots of warm-up techniques that can be found online. A simple one that I find very helpful is to just shake my hands out before, during and after I practice. Just drop your arms and shake loose you hands for a minute.  Not only does this loosens up the hands, arms, shoulders and neck, but I find it invigorates the Chi. Another great one is to elevate both arms directly to the front. Then roll your fists as if you are coiling a string onto a stick. It would be good to reverse the action on any warm-up that has your hands moving in one direction. Doing these in sets would also be better. For example, rolling the fists for a minute and then resting for 20 seconds in 4 sets would be more beneficial as it helps the blood flow better to the areas. Then reverse the movement and repeat the sets.

I find that if I'm doing a lot of practicing for a gig and do not release the tension in some way, my hands, forearms and neck will usually be tight or a little sore the next day. For me, yoga is a one of the best ways to  rejuvenate the body. The Crow position does wonders for stretching out the hands.

Be well, Perry

Last edited by Yungflutes (2007-04-15 09:29:59)


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#4 2007-08-30 16:07:17

Adrian
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From: Kent, England
Registered: 2006-12-06
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Re: RSI Injuries, Using a stand to make playing longer shakuhachi's easier

My post about the power ball ( http://www.shakuhachiforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=1639 ) might be useful for RSI issues.

Last edited by Adrian (2007-08-30 16:08:39)

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