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#1 2007-10-19 19:04:51

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Taimu Club

Here is a topic for players of Taimu flutes. Please post a description of your Taimu and discuss your experiences playing it. The reason for this topic is I'd like to have a clear idea of who has Taimu and what they're doing with it.


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#2 2007-10-20 19:18:33

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Re: Taimu Club

As one of the developers of Taimu flutes obviously I have access to them. I had the first two we made, although one has since moved on.

I have the following lengths:

3.3 (Db) second one made
3.0. (E)  This is the fattest and most massive Taimu yet made.
2.9.  (F) A rare 3 piece version I asked Ken to make for travel.
2.9.  (F) Nobe version
2.7 (F#) massive and hairy sounding foghorn
2.7 (G) Nobe
2.7 (G) Nobe
2.45 (Ab) my favorite for honkyoku
2.3 (A) This flute is called "Choda". It is loud and fat. I use it for jazz.
2.1 (Bb) another massive foghorn, very primitive.


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#3 2007-10-21 01:05:57

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http://www.chrismoran.com/dark2.35_cm.jpg
Taimu 2.35

First impressions are here.
More to come.


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#4 2007-10-25 18:07:11

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Re: Taimu Club

I just got my 2.1 Taimu today so it is too early to give a real evaluation but I will say I am highly impressed at the tone and playability.  The shakuhachi itself is a piece of art and one of the most beautiful I have seen.    As I get more acclimated to it I will post more.  Thanks Ken!!

BrianP


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#5 2007-11-03 00:48:35

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I've gotten to spend more time with my 2.1 Taimu now and all I can say is that I am highly impressed with the tone, construction and feel of this flute.  It can take a lot of air.  When blowing RO buki I can really lay into and get that infamous foghorn.  Both the Otsu and Kan registers play evenly and easy.  I thought I was going to have to make a lot of compromises with such a large bore flute and suprisingly enough I didn't. I can easily say this flute plays as easily and as well as any of my flutes.  It lets me play with a big sound and has lots of dynamics.  The finish is first rate and I like every part of this flute.  I really want to thank Ken for this great flute and say keep up the great work!   

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#6 2008-01-15 14:19:31

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Re: Taimu Club

Howdy all,

I recently got a 2.8 that ken calls "the monster".   It is a rather massive, dark urushi clad beast.   It looks a bit like a scimitar, but I have nicknamed it "darkstar" due to its colour.  I'm not sure what the sound is like, as it seems capable of many different types of sounds.  The flute is everthing that ken said it was, but it is also more.  It can be breathy or smoothe and whenever I think I have its "range" figured out I am happily suprised to find that it can do more.  I am sure there are many suprises waiting. 

ken is probably sick of people flattering him, but I must say that the flute is wonderful and complex and enables the player to experiment in a variety of ways.  As others have said, it is loud, and has a much higher volume capability than I was expecting.  This is probably due in part to the massivley undercut (large) holes. 

The thread asks people what they use the flute for.  With just barely over a year of solitary practice I am very new to the shakuhachi world, but I am naturally drawn to large, widebore flutes.  For the moment I tend to use my Taimu for practice, experimentation, breath work, and learning.  I view each flute as an instructor capable of teaching valuable lessons.  I often just pick it up, breath into it, and practice "at random", letting each breath chose its own direction. 

My hope is to use the flute for Honkyoku, (and solo composition), as I will be starting up formal online lessons pretty soon.  The flute is very beautiful (to my eye), and feels great.  The urushi makes the chin rest nice and velvety smooth, and allows for comfortable chin movement.  I look forward to learning from it.   

If I get a bit more courage I may post some sound sample of work done on it in the future. 

Lorka

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#7 2008-01-26 22:14:47

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Re: Taimu Club

Here's a pic of my Taimu family.

2.1, 2.3 (Choda), 2.45, 2.55, 2.7, 2.7, 2.9, 3.0 and 3.3

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc123/Tairaku/TheTaimuFamily.jpg


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#8 2008-01-29 12:17:17

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Re: Taimu Club

Thanks for the pics Brian,

that is a beautiful collection.  The 3.0 is particularly sweet looking.  Ken tells me that my Taimu is the 2nd largest one he made so far.  Its the one you did the 2.8 improvisation on (an improv that convinced me to get the flute)Is that 3.0 Taimu the chunkiest of the lot?  It's a beaut.

I may be opening a can of worms here, but just how many flutes do you have?  seems like quite alot.


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#9 2008-01-29 13:37:16

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Re: Taimu Club

Lorka wrote:

Thanks for the pics Brian,

that is a beautiful collection.  The 3.0 is particularly sweet looking.  Ken tells me that my Taimu is the 2nd largest one he made so far.  Its the one you did the 2.8 improvisation on (an improv that convinced me to get the flute)Is that 3.0 Taimu the chunkiest of the lot?  It's a beaut.

I may be opening a can of worms here, but just how many flutes do you have?  seems like quite alot.

The 3.0 is the flute I used on the song "Tairaku no Cho" on "Taimu" which was also an improvisation.

Your 2.8 is of similar dimensions, just a bit shorter. I think the pitch on yours is F#? The 3.0 is between E and F.

I'm glad you liked the improvisation we put on youtube. When we made those youtube videos Ken brought a whole new batch of flutes to LA when I was there and we shot the videos after I played each flute for a few minutes to get used to it. Thus it shows my reaction to unfamiliar flutes. It was a nice challenge. We thought it would give Ken's potential customers an idea of the flute and other people some music to listen to and watch.

How many flutes do I have? Too many obviously but I'm in the process of paring down my collection to mainly Myoan nobe.


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#10 2008-01-29 14:00:38

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Thanks for the reply Brian,

I don't actually know what the pitch is in the 2.8 (as I forgot to ask Ken), but what you say sounds right.  I guess this is common with large pieces of bamboo, but I noticed that the thing has a bunch of nodes visible on the inside that are not so visible on the outside of the flute.  I quite liked that hidden quality.. that and  the urushi smell.  Call me crazy, but I really like the smell.  I find it calming.  I don't find it unpleasant in the slightest.  My girlfriend, on the other hand, is not so keen on the urushi smell though, and she hopes the smell will go away with time.  As for me, I wouldn't mind if it stayed... in fact, I kinda hope it does stay. 

the youtube thing is really a good idea.  It helps people get a much better sense of a flute if they can see someone playing it.  You guys should keep doing that.


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#11 2008-01-29 14:09:59

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Re: Taimu Club

Lorka wrote:

the youtube thing is really a good idea.  It helps people get a much better sense of a flute if they can see someone playing it.  You guys should keep doing that.

The next time we see each other (probably) is at the festival and maybe Ken will have a pile of new flutes and we can do it again.


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#12 2008-02-04 12:16:04

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I am sorry! It is not very zen like, but I am SO jealous!!! I want a Taimu SO bad! But unless I win the lottery, they are out of my price range! Unless somebody wants to trade me for everything I have!


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#13 2008-02-04 13:22:51

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david wrote:

I am sorry! It is not very zen like, but I am SO jealous!!! I want a Taimu SO bad! But unless I win the lottery, they are out of my price range! Unless somebody wants to trade me for everything I have!

A little bird told me Ken is currently working on some inexpensive Chinese root end material. Maybe you should ask him about that.


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#14 2009-08-14 19:20:44

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Re: Taimu Club

Tairaku wrote:

Here is a topic for players of Taimu flutes. Please post a description of your Taimu and discuss your experiences playing it. The reason for this topic is I'd like to have a clear idea of who has Taimu and what they're doing with it.

OK, I got mine about a month or so ago on Ebay from Ken. When I first got it I thought it was too big for me. Then I figured that I could handle it with one of the holes moved. I talked to Ken via email and he sent me a video of how he would play it. It would work, but I didn't like using that part of my thumb. I decided not to have the hole moved because I was making some progress. So eventually, with a bit of a struggle, I finally got comfortable with it, my thumb positioned pretty much normal, my left hand pinky finger being used for Chi, and my left hand index finger covering the hole with the second joint.

Sounds pretty good, I think: http://www.4shared.com/file/125106966/8 … AKARV.html


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#15 2009-08-14 19:56:10

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Re: Taimu Club

I've had my Taimu for several months now (pic posted on the Taimu database thread). I have a lot of good things to say about it and nothing bad to say about it. At the time it was the widest flute I'd played, and the biggest adjustment was getting used to the x-tra large radically undercut holes. I had to warm up quite a bit and be extra conscious of my finger placement before fingering articulately, but once warmed up, no problem.

Since then I've acquired a huge in-tune tree-trunk Watazumi-style Hocchiku flute (pictured on Jon Shingetsu's website gallery), that is much wider than the Taimu. I've found, after playing the Watazumi flute for an hour or so then switching to the Taimu that handing the width is an absolute ZERO issue. Maybe if anyone is having this type of "issue" they can invest in a cheap ultra-wide-bore PVC "trainer" - get the hang of that and going back to your Taimu will be a breeze.

Aside from being aesthetically a work of art, the sound... THE SOUND of the Taimu is off the chart. Fantastic.

Aside from the Taimu, I also have two of Ken's Chinese Madake jinashi flutes, a wide-bore 2.5 and a normal size 1.6 that both play fantastically with an excellent sound, definitely a playing value far exceeding their monetary cost! Normally my preferred "zone" is larger flutes, even though I have smaller flutes the ones that get the most mileage are 2.3-2.8, but I find myself playing the 1.6 quite a bit because it is so playable and has such a great sound.

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#16 2009-08-14 21:03:31

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Re: Taimu Club

ABRAXAS wrote:

Since then I've acquired a huge in-tune tree-trunk Watazumi-style Hocchiku flute (pictured on Jon Shingetsu's website gallery), that is much wider than the Taimu. .

How far up the scale does it stay in tune? Can it play 2 or more octaves? Usually HUGE flutes only go up to about Re in the second octave.


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#17 2009-08-14 21:05:40

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Re: Taimu Club

Tairaku wrote:

ABRAXAS wrote:

Since then I've acquired a huge in-tune tree-trunk Watazumi-style Hocchiku flute (pictured on Jon Shingetsu's website gallery), that is much wider than the Taimu. .

How far up the scale does it stay in tune? Can it play 2 or more octaves? Usually HUGE flutes only go up to about Re in the second octave.

Only up to Re in kan, but thats ok, I knew that going in. wink

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#18 2009-08-14 21:16:09

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Re: Taimu Club

ABRAXAS wrote:

Only up to Re in kan, but thats ok, I knew that going in. wink

Can't defy physics. Last time I was in SF (on an unscheduled pit stop due to missed flight) Ken showed me some he was working on. He pretty much discovered the ratio at which it is no longer possible to make flutes which will play Myoan honkyoku (for example) in some semblance of 2 octave plus useful tuning.

But it's nice to have something like this just to play the low octave stuff and the few honkyoku that don't stray above re.

Here's a link to the flute ABRAXAS is talking about.

http://www.flutedojo.com/ebay/hocchiku/ … chiku.html


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#19 2009-08-14 21:28:47

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It is very fun to play and an interesting learning experience to wrangle volume out of it. For about 2 days I thought it could only get so loud, but keeping at it I found the embouchure to elicit a good BOOMING sound out of it. I do a lot of "exploration" playing so the limitations are not as constricting as it would be if my sole concern was playing strictly by-the-book honkyoku - I have a lot of fun with it. Another wrangling aspect is that it is so big your chin rests IN the bore - I had a tendency to instinctively pull-in or push-out my chin in weird ways, it took awhile just to relax with it and position the jaw in just the right way in conjunction with the right embouchure and airstream across the utaguchi to get the volume, tones, meri, etc. out of it. VERY interesting flute. Also this thing so solid and heavy enough you could vandalize a car with it.

Jon had a short video of himself playing the first few notes of Kyorei on it up on youtube for awhile, but I couldn't find it just now, he must have taken it down.


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