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#1 2008-04-22 17:21:45
Where did this Myoan come from?
I purchased what was advertised as an "80 year old Jinashi Myoan flute" it plays well, though im not sure if it exactly 80 years. it looks like it might have had a replacement on the utaguchi. I was also curious if anyone is familiar with this hanko? My kanji knowledge is a bit limited, but I think it reads "Minshi" or "People's Law". Anyhow just figured that this would be the best place to gain some insight on the subject.
Ben
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#2 2008-04-22 23:56:12
- Jeff Cairns
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Re: Where did this Myoan come from?
Hello Benjamin,The hanko seems to read :Tamiji
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#3 2008-04-23 00:30:13
- Moran from Planet X
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Re: Where did this Myoan come from?
Jeff Cairns wrote:
Hello Benjamin,The hanko seems to read :Tamiji
And for the benefit of us JLI (Japanese Language Impaired) persons, 'Tamiji' might translate as ... ???
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#4 2008-04-23 02:07:59
- Tairaku 太楽
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Re: Where did this Myoan come from?
Chris Moran wrote:
Jeff Cairns wrote:
Hello Benjamin,The hanko seems to read :Tamiji
And for the benefit of us JLI (Japanese Language Impaired) persons, 'Tamiji' might translate as ... ???
Could mean "Hidden Mountain" but might mean "Steak with A1 sauce". Very difficult. We do not use these characters anymore.
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#5 2008-04-23 09:50:24
- Jeff Cairns
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Re: Where did this Myoan come from?
Tamiji is a person's name. It literally means 'the person who rules'. I found this name connected to a deceased potter named Yokoyama Tamiji. I couldn't find any reference to a shakuhachi maker with the same name though.
Hope that helps.
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#6 2008-04-23 10:35:42
Re: Where did this Myoan come from?
As Jeff says, a ruler. The top character is commonly read 'min' which is 'people' or 'common people', 'commoner' and the lower one 'tsukasadoro' or'shi'. A character often used as a suffix for a high position. It's the second character of my son's name too. I guess he's been ruling me for about 21 years now. I'll pick another name next time.
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#7 2008-04-23 10:42:12
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Re: Where did this Myoan come from?
Tairaku wrote:
Could mean "Hidden Mountain" but might mean "Steak with A1 sauce". Very difficult. We do not use these characters anymore.
"Steak with A1 sauce" is definitely better than "One who rules" -- unless the "One who rules" is like a Jeff Spicoli thing like "I rule, Bud!"
I wonder if you could get a hanko with the Japanese translation of "Laphroaig Single Malt Kicks Butt"?
Seriously though, Ben, it looks like an interesting flute. How does it sound? How does it play? Old bamboo is inspiring.
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#8 2008-04-23 10:56:17
Re: Where did this Myoan come from?
Chris, you'd have fun in Japan. You can have a hanko made cheaply on about every street corner with whatever combination of characters you wish. Then take it down to the city office and have it entered as your official hanko.
Interesting looking #5 hole? Really? I don't think it's even a shakuhachi. It looks like a handle on a draft beer dispenser in a shakuhachi bar.
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#9 2008-04-23 13:20:34
Re: Where did this Myoan come from?
Chris,
The flute plays ok for me. I have been making my own flutes out of thicker more dense madake and have gotten used to the flute resting a lot lower on my chin. This one seems to rest on my lower lip more than my chin. Since I have not taken lessons from anyone it has been pretty slow going, trying to learn Hon Shirabe at the moment. It has a nice round and direct tone, sounds more like a Jiari flute.
Thanks everyone for your help. Other than Jeff's connection to the potter, has anyone else seen a flute with this same hanko?
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#10 2008-04-23 13:31:46
Re: Where did this Myoan come from?
Ben --
I get to Columbia MO several times a year because my daughter and grandkids live there. If you want, I could give you a lesson when I'm in the area. Or online lessons work well.
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