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#1 2009-01-30 04:28:28

Yu-Jin
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Buddhist hat?

Hi everybody,
I was looking at some pictures showing komuso Ejun Iechika playing shakuhachi or meditating
http://ejun.by.ru/Ejun_dudka/images/ejun19.jpg
http://ejun.by.ru/Ejun_med/images/ejun30.jpg
http://ejun.by.ru/Ejun_kalli/images/ejun42.jpg

At these pictures he is wearing knitted type of hat. I am wondering if this is a traditional hat used by certain schools? If yes, does it have a specific name and what schools is it used in? (I believe this type of hat was not a part of original komuso's outfit, was it?)

Thanks!
E.

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#2 2009-01-30 06:24:39

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Re: Buddhist hat?

I don't see anything. Can you post the images directly? These just have Russian writing and no pics.


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#3 2009-01-30 07:23:01

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Re: Buddhist hat?

Hi,

Ejun now lives in Prague, I can inquire about the hat directly if you are interested.

Cheers,

Marek


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#4 2009-01-30 11:04:27

Yu-Jin
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Re: Buddhist hat?

That's strange, I can't open these pics today either. Maybe the server is unstable.

fouw, thanks for posting!

Marek, I'd appreciate if you can ask Ejun if that's appropriate to ask.

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#5 2009-01-30 15:58:07

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Re: Buddhist hat?

Yu-Jin wrote:

Hi everybody,
I was looking at some pictures showing komuso Ejun Iechika playing shakuhachi or meditating
http://ejun.by.ru/Ejun_dudka/images/ejun19.jpg
http://ejun.by.ru/Ejun_med/images/ejun30.jpg
http://ejun.by.ru/Ejun_kalli/images/ejun42.jpg

At these pictures he is wearing knitted type of hat. I am wondering if this is a traditional hat used by certain schools? If yes, does it have a specific name and what schools is it used in? (I believe this type of hat was not a part of original komuso's outfit, was it?)

Thanks!
E.

This not a Komuso or Buddhist hat. It is just a hat that's all.

Yes there is hats that are sometimes worn by Buddhist priests or tea masters to walk around. Those hats are quite simple and are made of raw silk,wool and sometimes linen. This type of hat is more closely linked to the Zen schools. It is quite rare anyway to see priests with hats on the streets today anyway I have seen it only a couple of times and is not so easy to find in monks clothing shops as well.


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#6 2009-01-30 16:30:25

Yu-Jin
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Re: Buddhist hat?

Thank you Gishin.

E.

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#7 2009-01-30 16:46:21

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Re: Buddhist hat?

Very cool hat. Maybe one of our more entrepreneurial members can locate a bunch and sell them to us. I take a 7 5/8. wink


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#8 2009-01-30 17:27:27

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Re: Buddhist hat?

Yu-Jin wrote:

Thank you Gishin.

E.

No prob!

To answer Tairaku yes I can get hats that are quite similar but not weaved and as I said they are reserved to priests and tea masters. They are made custom each time. I can surely get some made but if you go walk around in Japan with that stuff you will surely get they eyeball treatment. Anyway I do not ever wear them I feel strange wearing a hat anyway.


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#9 2009-01-30 18:16:22

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Re: Buddhist hat?

Gishin wrote:

Yu-Jin wrote:

Thank you Gishin.

E.

No prob!

To answer Tairaku yes I can get hats that are quite similar but not weaved and as I said they are reserved to priests and tea masters. They are made custom each time. I can surely get some made but if you go walk around in Japan with that stuff you will surely get they eyeball treatment. Anyway I do not ever wear them I feel strange wearing a hat anyway.

I am a shakuhachi priest and tea master of Chado-the Way of Tea Hobart. Party all the time. wink

Hats stay on my head because I have hair, you should try it sometime! wink


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#10 2009-01-30 21:57:28

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Re: Buddhist hat?

Will get a pink one with green polka dots just for your school smile


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#11 2009-01-31 00:22:59

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Re: Buddhist hat?

Tairaku wrote:

Hats stay on my head because I have hair, you should try it sometime! wink

Actually, if you only shave every fifth day, you will find that your hat usually stays in place through the velcro effect.


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#12 2009-01-31 07:15:57

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Re: Buddhist hat?

OK so this thread reminds me of one of the great high points of Western (and specifically English) enlightenment:
The (not the best) Monty Python film "The Meaning of Life" - All I can say is - "people don't wear enough hats."
Check it out.


"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it."

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#13 2009-05-09 17:51:36

Yu-Jin
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Re: Buddhist hat?

Well, after searching the internet, I couldn't find anything I was looking for. Therefore I decided to use some skills I got from my grandma over 30 years ago.
Since I like doing Gongfu Cha on my porch at night after my workout, I don't like sometimes sitting with wet head (yeah, in San Diego it can be a bit chilly at night during the winter wink )

This is what came out of my crochet workshop smile

http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/k/o/komuso_sd/Hat3.jpg

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#14 2009-05-19 03:40:24

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Re: Buddhist hat?

Yu-jin wrote:

Well, after searching the internet, I couldn't find anything I was looking for. Therefore I decided to use some skills I got from my grandma over 30 years ago.

Thanks Yu-Jin. God save all of our grandmas.

From a Ram Das (Richard Alpert) interview on Canadian radio in the 1980s:  "I was giving this lecture back in the 70's and everybody in those days wore white, and they had flowers in their hair and we sang a lot, and we were all - it was like an explorers club coming together, and sitting in the front row was this woman about 70 years old and she had - she had a bonnet on with little strawberries, plastic strawberries, and cherries and things and she had a black patent leather bag and solid, lace-up oxfords and a print dress and I kept thinking, she was so unlike everybody else in the audience. I kept thinking, "What is she doing here?"

I thought maybe she's somebody's grandmother or somebody brought her or - so I would tell these far out stories that what happened to me under psychedelics for the most part or deep meditation, and I'd look over and she'd be going like this [nods head up and down], and I thought well maybe she has a neck problem. I mean it was inconceivable to me that she could understand what I was talking about, and she kept going like this [nods head up and down] and I kept getting more far out and watching - I mean the whole evening became focussed on this woman [nods head up and down].

And at the end I couldn't stand it, the evening was over. And I just had to know and I kind of smiled her up - actually couldn't get away, and she came up and she said "Oh, thank you ... that's just the way I understand the universe to be." 

And I said, "How do you know? What have you done in your life that has put you in the space where you know these things?"

And she leaned forward, very conspiratorially she said, "I crochet."


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#15 2009-05-20 12:50:34

Yu-Jin
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Re: Buddhist hat?

Thanks Chris! Great story!

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#16 2009-05-20 13:10:43

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Re: Buddhist hat?

Chris Moran wrote:

From a Ram Das (Richard Alpert) interview on Canadian radio in the 1980s:  And I said, "How do you know? What have you done in your life that has put you in the space where you know these things?"

And she leaned forward, very conspiratorially she said, "I crochet."

That reminds me of an interview with Joseph Campbell being asked, because of his "spiritual" insight, what type of discipline or meditation he practices.

He replied, "I meditate by underlining sentences."


"Shakuhachi music stirs up both gods and demons." -- Ikkyu.

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#17 2009-05-20 15:58:16

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Re: Buddhist hat?

Chris Moran wrote:

Yu-jin wrote:

And I said, "How do you know? What have you done in your life that has put you in the space where you know these things?"

And she leaned forward, very conspiratorially she said, "I crochet."

Hey, nice.
check:
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/marg … _reef.html


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#18 2009-11-24 21:19:42

Moran from Planet X
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Re: Buddhist hat?

Yu-Jin wrote:

Hi everybody,
I was looking at some pictures showing komuso Ejun Iechika playing shakuhachi or meditating
http://ejun.by.ru/Ejun_dudka/images/ejun19.jpg
http://ejun.by.ru/Ejun_med/images/ejun30.jpg
http://ejun.by.ru/Ejun_kalli/images/ejun42.jpg

At these pictures he is wearing knitted type of hat. I am wondering if this is a traditional hat used by certain schools? If yes, does it have a specific name and what schools is it used in? (I believe this type of hat was not a part of original komuso's outfit, was it?)

Thanks!
E.

"Buddhist Monk style hat,well-knitted by hand, all sizes" -- from Fujian, China

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi … 0145900504

Unfortunately I have no commercial interest in this item, but I'm sure you'll see them at the 2012 World Shakuhachi Festival in Kyoto for $100 each.


"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass...and I am all out of bubblegum." —Rowdy Piper, They Live!

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