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#1 2009-02-08 10:03:31

Benjamin
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Ji ari bore prep

this one is for all you professional Take tweakers,

I have a 1.65 that I have been working on and the bore is pretty "in the raw" still.  I was wondering how much do you have to bring the node walls down to the surface of the bore if you plan to fill the bore in with ji or another paste material?  It is a pretty wide bore flute as Ro at this point sounds breathy and just a half step or so above D.  Would it not be advisable to only bring the node walls down to the specs that I want for the finished bore then add ji paste around the nodes? I know that having as little ji in the bore is advisable, but in this case I am not sure. Most of these inquires are theoretical though, as I probably wont want to mess this flute up; ive got one special for this type of work (frankenflute).   

Any thoughts?

Ben


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#2 2009-02-08 11:04:55

Yungflutes
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Re: Ji ari bore prep

Hi Ben, I would bring the nodes to the specs and plaster around it. It can help to hold the plaster in place.
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#3 2009-02-08 13:55:42

Benjamin
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Re: Ji ari bore prep

Trying to find a Ji paste substitute, I wanted to stick with the lacquer/powder tag team.  Would diatomaceous earth and lacquer work? 

Ben


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#4 2009-02-08 14:40:52

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Re: Ji ari bore prep

Benjamin wrote:

Trying to find a Ji paste substitute, I wanted to stick with the lacquer/powder tag team.  Would diatomaceous earth and lacquer work? 

Ben

Fix-All can work as a tonoko powder substitute. Add a little urushi and water to form a paste. It's found in most hardware stores. Make sure to seal the bore before applying. Otherwise it will draw the moisture out of the bamboo and increase the chance of cracking.

Ken

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#5 2009-02-18 03:44:32

Toby
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Re: Ji ari bore prep

Some makers are now using body putty for cars. It is permanent, dries hard quickly, and is easily workable.

Toby

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#6 2010-04-22 17:45:33

Itamar Foguel
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Re: Ji ari bore prep

what about wall and wood fillers?

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#7 2010-04-22 19:10:19

Moran from Planet X
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Re: Ji ari bore prep

Toby wrote:

Some makers are now using body putty for cars.

Yes, I've seen this hanko before: 盆道


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#8 2010-04-22 20:04:18

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Re: Ji ari bore prep

Chris Moran wrote:

Toby wrote:

Some makers are now using body putty for cars.

Yes, I've seen this hanko before: 盆道

Now that is funny!


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#9 2010-04-23 20:46:40

Moran from Planet X
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Re: Ji ari bore prep

Mind you I know nothing, absolutely nothing, about shakuhachi making but going to the forum's search function:

http://shakuhachiforum.com/search.php

and entering "wood filler" gave me this:

http://shakuhachiforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=4352

and Toby's following quote:

Toby wrote:

Wood putty or car body putty work well.

Plus Ken also recommended these links on the forum.

http://www.shakuhachiforum.com/viewtopi … 67&p=1

http://www.shakuhachiforum.com/viewtopi … 609


http://www.shakuhachiforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=1555

and remember:

Mujitsu wrote:

... Make sure to seal the bore before applying. Otherwise it will draw the moisture out of the bamboo and increase the chance of cracking.

Sounds like good advice. Now I know at least three things about shakuhachi making that I didn't know before.

There are volumes and volumes of information on shakuhachi making on the forum. The search page http://shakuhachiforum.com/search.php is a great gift

Last edited by Chris Moran (2010-04-23 20:55:36)


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