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Hi all,
I heared alot about people living in Uchi-Deshi to study Shakuhachi in the past, is there any possibility to still do something like that without moving to Japan?
Last edited by Christopher B. (2009-10-03 16:25:57)
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Sure you'd just have to find a teacher who wants that situation. Maybe one of our geniuses here will offer you the position!
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Christopher B. wrote:
Hi all,
I heared alot about people living in Uchi-Deshi to study Shakuhachi in the past, is there any possibility to still do something like that without moving to Japan?
Well as most people know Uchi-Deshi means you live with your teacher OR at least live near him and spend time with him almost everyday. If you are not able or willing to go to Japan then you will have to go where a willing and licensed teacher in Europe or North-America will take you. This seems like a lot of trouble for not going to Japan I honestly think that in the end the time, energy and money will amount to be the same as going to Japan. Now does one need to go to Japan to really learn Shakuhachi NO. But if you wanna get in on the uchi-deshi thing I feel that it is about the culture and all the other things that come with it that will make your uchi-deshi thing be really worthwhile. If not just tkae lessons in person or online with the teachers have and it will be all good. To me Uchi-Deshi means living in Japan.
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Gishin wrote:
. If you are not able or willing to go to Japan then you will have to go where a willing and licensed teacher in Europe or North-America will take you..
Or Australia! Rock on Gishin!
So Gishin, the teacher instructs the student. What is the student expected to do for the teacher in return?
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Tairaku wrote:
Gishin wrote:
. If you are not able or willing to go to Japan then you will have to go where a willing and licensed teacher in Europe or North-America will take you..
Or Australia! Rock on Gishin!
So Gishin, the teacher instructs the student. What is the student expected to do for the teacher in return?
Yes this is true Australia as well my bad I always felt Australia was the Europe of the south with an Asian twist.
Now for doing stuff for the teacher it all depends on how good looking the student is
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Gishin wrote:
Now for doing stuff for the teacher it all depends on how good looking the student is
Well you're pretty good lookin' so what kind of perks did your Sensei get?
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Guten Tag Christopher,
If you want to move to New York City, I will teach you all I know. I have two making students now.
You can start with curing, bending and processing harvested bamboo. In time, you can start to make flutes from simple, original Zen style flutes to Hocchiku to the modern 2 piece instruments. You will also learn how to play some Dokyoku and Kinko Honkyoku pieces so that you know how to make choices on tuning the flutes. This would be a serious commitment. We will start with wipe on, wipe off.
Of course, the master also learns from the student
Last edited by Yungflutes (2009-10-03 21:31:00)
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Hi all,
thanks alot for the answeres and Brian it´s is always funny to have you joking around
Perry, thats a very nice offer. I will contact to via mail to get some things serious ok?
My problem is that I dont want to go to Japan cause i dont speak the language and I didn´t had anybody who can instroduct me do the local teachers dojo and so. I know I can just walk arround and try to find a teacher but I think in the west it is a little bit more modern. You know, I am not so serious about living in a temple and so on...I am still a free person. I will spend all my energy and time to learn and work with my teacher but I still have to be "free".
Best wishes and thanks again!
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Christopher B. wrote:
My problem is that I dont want to go to Japan cause i dont speak the language and I didn´t had anybody who can instroduct me do the local teachers dojo and so. I know I can just walk arround and try to find a teacher but I think in the west it is a little bit more modern. You know, I am not so serious about living in a temple and so on...I am still a free person. I will spend all my energy and time to learn and work with my teacher but I still have to be "free".
Best wishes and thanks again!
In all seriousness I think this is a healthy attitude and I hope something comes out of this. We have to develop a Western shakuhachi scene and if something like this happens it will be a big step. Good luck. Chris if you want to come down to Tasmania and work we can do it.
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Thanks,
first of all I have to clear some things here in Germany, and then I have to get a Job and a appartment and something in the US or in Tasmania. I am not so clear about getting a Visa and that stuff so I have to get all that information first and save some money here in germany. But if I make that step (and sure I am playing with this thought since I started playing shakuhachi) I will stay for a half or one year to study playing and maybe making too. So first off all I have to get all this information about working and living there, I think it is a big step to leave familie and friends and the normal situation.
I have to get a "Study-Visa" maybe, I will visit or local office in the next weeks to get clear about it. A one way flight to the US, next year in May will be about 500€, I am thinking about to stay a half year in the US first but as I know I have to pay my insurance by my own in USA so I need a job and a place to stay But I will get some more information in the next few weeks to get clear about all that stuff.
Thanks for your offers and I will stay in contact.
Last edited by Christopher B. (2009-10-04 09:55:58)
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That's funny Nyokai, I am holding out for an Uchi-Deshi spot in Cleveland Heights myself I have talked with my Sensei jokingly in the past about doing some different TV episodes and all the hijinks that will ensue and I think we could have something here.
Last edited by BrianP (2009-10-04 14:09:59)
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I didn't want to sound anxious on the board I have my ticket to Cleveland setup for right after Japan in nov. I was going to let you know when I pick you up on Wed. Cat's out of the bag... oopppsss.... bad expression...
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Christopher B. wrote:
Hi all,
My problem is that I dont want to go to Japan cause i dont speak the language and I didn´t had anybody who can instroduct me do the local teachers dojo and so. I know I can just walk arround and try to find a teacher but I think in the west it is a little bit more modern.
Best wishes and thanks again!
Hi Christopher
2 of the best teachers in the world are here in Tokyo and speak English - Araki Kodo V and Furuya Teruo. They are also both very approachable. (Not as uchi deshi but as a shakuhachi student). If your English is fluent you could perhaps teach English (or German even) in Tokyo.
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