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#1 2010-10-31 01:28:29

Moran from Planet X
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Michio Miyagi recordings

Are there actual recordings available of Michio Miyagi. I've gone through amazon.com and think they look pretty limited. Other sources?


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#2 2010-10-31 02:02:20

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Re: Michio Miyagi recordings

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#3 2010-10-31 08:49:19

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Re: Michio Miyagi recordings

Hey, Chump-Du u have a turntable with a USB out?    I am willing to ship to you my collection of 3 or 4 rare Michio Miyagi LP's I have collected over the years.    You may email me offline if you need them,  shakuhachi brother.


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#4 2010-10-31 08:54:48

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Re: Michio Miyagi recordings

On Ebay under the listing of Michio Miyagi, there are 23 auctions available at very reasonable prices,  all LP's.    One actually includes a nice B&W photo book.


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#5 2010-10-31 09:00:56

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Re: Michio Miyagi recordings

On Ebay, under the listing Michio Miyagi koto cd is only one cd available at a very high price from Japan, let alone shipping,  and it seems to have all of his greatest hits.     I will check on my own cd koto collection later today.


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#6 2010-10-31 09:08:59

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Re: Michio Miyagi recordings

Thank you guys, I bow and knock my head three times on the cold stone floor of my practice room.


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#7 2010-10-31 09:21:15

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Re: Michio Miyagi recordings

I stand corrected,    on Ebay there are 4 cd's available including the expensive one from Japan, under the listing CD michio, 2 are ensemble pieces from the Yamato group with Richard Stagg playing shakuhachi.    These two may not actually have Miyagi sensei playing.


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#8 2010-10-31 18:23:45

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Re: Michio Miyagi recordings

I'm assuming you're looking for recordings of Miyagi _himself_ playing, yes? 

If you have oodles of money to spend, there's a 15-CD centennial set put out by Victor and containing 139 Miyagi Michio compositions/arrangements (with him playing on a number of them).  It's available from Hougaku Journal's shop at http://hj-how.com/SHOP/1346.html.  For slightly less oodles, there's a 13-disk set, also released for his 100th birthday - http://hj-how.com/SHOP/1050.html. Farther down the $$ chain is a collection of about 20 pieces here, http://hj-how.com/SHOP/1044.html.  And then there are a number of single disks, SPs, etc. of Miyagi stuff available on this site. 

Hougaku Journal's recording catalogue (http://hj-how.com) is the most extensive all-in-one-place collection of hougaku stuff I know of.    It's all in Japanese, though, but if you don't read Japanese, Google's Chrome browser does a pretty good job of translating, or you could use any translation program.  FYI, the top link on the navi bar on the left of their front page is "Soukyoku / Jiuta" (which will contain all types of koto), or that can break down into "Jiuta / Ikuta-ryuu Soukyoku (including Miyagi Michio)" - the first sublink showing - and "Yamada-ryuu Soukyoku", the second sublink.

If you want to order, the staff at Hougaku Journal *do* respond to English emails (although it sometimes takes them a couple of weeks), and they do ship overseas.  However, I believe you can't use their online ordering system if you're outside Japan.  I have ordered from them a number of times, and I just send them a list of their catalogue number and title of the item, and have received my orders with good communication, no problems and good service.

You can also hear some clips of Miyagi pieces and see a video of him playing on the official Miyagi Michio site - English page is here - http://www.miyagikai.gr.jp/english/index.html.  They also sell his recordings, but that's only available through the Japanese version of their site, so I'm guessing they might not ship overseas - don't quote me, though. 

Hope the above is helpful.  BTW, were you looking for any specific Miyagi piece(s)?  I have a lot of his recordings, and wouldn't mind sharing a few pieces by email....


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#9 2010-11-01 22:55:56

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Re: Michio Miyagi recordings

Sokyoku, the video is riveting. Yes, I'm looking for recordings of Miyagi himself. I know nothing about Soukyoku. In my usual bass-ackwards fashion, after a few years of listening to shakuhachi honkyoku, I'm wanting some roots in more formal Japanese music and learning appreciation of 20th century Japanese music particularly Tozan and Miyagi Michio. Still, keeping to my antique bias, I like recordings by original composers when possible. (Just imagine if we had original recordings of Bach or the other B-boys of Western Classical Music). Thank you for your responses.

Wuwu-san, I have yet to get a usb turntable. I just saw a vinyl-to-usb device that doesn't play the record itself, but rather scans it and I'll probably invest in one of those in the near future. Not expensive. I have a nice old Newcomb tube phonograph I got from a school rummage sale (labeled "English Dept."). I listen to a few old jazz 78s and some 33's. No linkage to my iMac, though. When I get the vinyl scanner-thingie I may take you up on some LP loans. You, too, are a generous friend-of-the-shakuhachi-people person.

As to Miyagi Michio music, I'm really just looking for his "greatest hits" so I can be mildly conversant with his work. I'm still looking at the eBay LP auctions with some curiosity.

sokyoku, are there any recordings of Miyagi playing 'non-Miyagi' Ikuta-ryuu music?

(I'm not on my new machine, so no Google Chrome for me tonight.)

Thanks again, folks. -- Chris

Last edited by Moran from Planet X (2010-11-01 22:59:32)


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#10 2010-11-02 01:40:56

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Re: Michio Miyagi recordings

> sokyoku, are there any recordings of Miyagi playing 'non-Miyagi' Ikuta-ryuu music?

I'm not Sokyoku, but I can answer this! Yes, there are.

Here's a CD with Miyagi and his wife playing Rokudan, Akikaze no kyoku (first part), Aki no koto no ha (excerpts), Midare, Godan kinuta, and Chidori no kyoku:

http://hj-how.com/SHOP/1102.html

Here's a recent "best-of" CD with Miyagi and some other folks playing a mixture of his own compositions and general Ikuta-ryu pieces: Rokudan, Haru no Umi (with violin, not shakuhachi), Midare, Haru no yo, Karaginuta, and Ochiba no odori:

http://hj-how.com/SHOP/7008.html

And the third volume of his "noiseless 78 transfer" series is all traditional, pre-Miyagi music: Rokudan, Godan kinuta, Sue no chigiri, Cha [no yu] ondo, and Chidori no kyoku.

http://hj-how.com/SHOP/1382.html

Of course most of this stuff is available in various other combinations and permutations as well. (I have a CD that in my opinion has a better overview-style selection than the "Masters of Japan" best-of, but it must be out of print because I don't see it on that page.) If you can verify that it's him playing, you're unlikely to go wrong with anything you buy... I've yet to, although maybe Sokyoku has a more refined palate.


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#11 2010-11-02 14:28:40

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Re: Michio Miyagi recordings

Hi again Chris/Moran from Planet X :

>Just imagine if we had original recordings of Bach...
Oh man, I'd kill for that, definitely!!! [says the ex-pianist/harpsichordist in me]

Well, for a single, representative CD of Miyagi's style, you might want to go for the Haru no Umi / Miyagi Michio one.  The recording is Miyagi himself playing seven of his more famous pieces. It's available from Japan at that cdjapan.co.jp link that fouw provided (second one down in the list), in the US from http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.a … classical, and also through Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Haru-No-Umi-Michi … p;sr=8-33.

As No-sword already told you, yes, there are recordings of Miyagi himself playing kokyoku (classical pieces), although they may be a tad trickier to find.  (People just don't seem to want the classics as much these days....)  BTW, just a small amendment to No-sword's helpful info that >Here's a CD with Miyagi and his wife playing Rokudan...<.  Miyagi's not playing with his wife (who was Sadako), but rather with his deshi, Kiyoko, who subsequently became head of the Miyagikai after Miyagi died.  The two of them are the koto players on all three of the links that No-sword shared with you.

BTW, as I'm writing this post, I only just remembered that someone uploaded a bunch of Miyagi stuff (audio only) to YouTube a little while ago.  If you go to http://www.youtube.com/user/aPassingFancy, you'll find pretty well all the pieces from the above CD in their upload section, plus a number of the classical recordings from No-sword's links.  So that might save you some time and money...

Keep us posted!

Best,
Linda.


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