Mujitsu and Tairaku's Shakuhachi BBQ

lowonthetotem · 2009-04-09 14:29:11

If you like bawdy humor.

http://books.google.com/books?id=hI6Ity … #PPA168,M1

radi0gnome · 2009-04-09 15:38:58

lowonthetotem wrote:
If you like bawdy humor.

http://books.google.com/books?id=hI6Ity … #PPA168,M1

Two questions: What is Senryu? Isn't that part of Justin's website name "senryushakuhachi.com"? And, did I see a reference to holeless bamboo in there? Wonders never cease...

baian · 2009-04-09 15:57:08

And for the minority of Shakuhachi players that also enjoy Go , some Senryu about Go :

http://www.kiseido.com/sen.htm

lowonthetotem · 2009-04-15 08:45:23

komachi no he ippo-guchi de oto no yosa
Translated as
komachi's farts:
with but one exit what
sound quality!
Tanslator's commentary
It is a fact that additional mass close to the orifice reduces acoustical leakage. I would bet the author was an instrument maker.

That is good stuff.

Josh · 2009-04-15 09:39:58

Justin does make some pretty cool flutes, but no, he is not "Japan's answer to the limerick"!!
A senryu is basicaly a cynical haiku. Usually 3 lines and doesn't carry the serious of a haiku and the seasons etc.
Justin's "Senryu" is about either "lines" and "dragons" or "rivers" and "dragons". (Sorry, I can't remember the kanji right now, red wine affecting the brain and all, but I doubt "Line Dragon" was the image that Justin was going for when they came up with that name).

Moran from Planet X · 2009-04-15 16:44:45

komachi's farts:
with but one exit what
sound quality!
Tanslator's commentary
It is a fact that additional mass close to the orifice reduces acoustical leakage. I would bet the author was an instrument maker.

What is a komachi?

Josh · 2009-04-15 19:03:30

Ono Komachi was the guy in the poem.

lowonthetotem · 2009-04-17 08:32:34

What is a komachi?

Ono Komachi was the guy in the poem.

I think it is a play on words because it is also referred to as a specific kind of cherry/blossom. And, this poem refers to the name sake of the book at large, so I think Komachi is actually a lady of sorts, without going into too much detail.

baian · 2009-04-17 08:41:12

http://www.gotterdammerung.org/japan/li … o-komachi/

lowonthetotem · 2009-04-17 09:49:08

She was, however, haughty and cruel, breaking many hearts.

Hence the dirty poems about not having certain plumbing.

Moran from Planet X · 2009-04-17 17:17:38

lowonthetotem wrote:
What is a komachi?
Ono Komachi was the guy in the poem.
I think it is a play on words because it is also referred to as a specific kind of cherry/blossom. And, this poem refers to the name sake of the book at large, so I think Komachi is actually a lady of sorts, without going into too much detail.

Okay so "komachi" is a type of cherry blossom, Komachi-Zakura, one which particularly was slow to open, or slow to make a "hole". And the name of the poet was Ono no Komachi. And Komachi was a woman not a guy. So by being slow to open she was pejoratively referred to as "without a hole."

In other words, she played hard to get.

Okay. That's clear. Men who can't make it with particular women can act like such children.

No-sword · 2009-04-18 01:07:48

I don't think the translator got the intended meaning of that senryu, actually. "Ippoguchi" means "one-way exit", not "only one exit" or "one way out". The joke is that Komachi is so uptight that/because her "exit" is strictly one-way, and her farts resonate beautifully as a side-effect of this uptightness. (The sakura thing isn't really relevant to this particular senryu, but it is to some of the others.)

Last edited by No-sword (2009-04-18 01:12:00)

Moran from Planet X · 2009-04-18 02:47:21

Okay, I have to ask: Are we talking about the farts everyone can make or the farts only women can make?

lowonthetotem · 2009-04-23 09:11:41

I don't think the translator got the intended meaning of that senryu, actually. "Ippoguchi" means "one-way exit", not "only one exit" or "one way out". The joke is that Komachi is so uptight that/because her "exit" is strictly one-way, and her farts resonate beautifully as a side-effect of this uptightness.

This could mean that even the title of the book is a mistake.

No-sword · 2009-04-24 08:55:36

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that. There are definitely other senryu in there that talk about holelessness! Just this particular one about farting.

(Chris: The ones everyone can make... Doesn't bear thinking about too hard though.)

lowonthetotem · 2009-04-24 09:39:10

Doesn't bear thinking about too hard though

Hahahahaha! And yet....

I have to admit, I still don't have a deep understanding of the poetry in the work as a whole. Mostly, I have been reading diverse chunks here and there for chuckles while I am stuck at work. I enjoy the utter vulgarity of it all. It reminds me of Rabelais, but boiled down into small crystals of crudity.

Mujitsu and Tairaku's Shakuhachi BBQ

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Senryu; Japan's answer tot he dirty limerick.

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