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#1 2009-04-16 11:03:05

purehappiness
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Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

I was wondering if people think there is a stradovarius of shakuhachi. Either maker or flute itself. It sounds like an interesting topic.


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#2 2009-04-16 11:38:58

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

For me, the "Holy Trinity" of Shakuhachi makers would be (and in order of personal preference):

MIURA KINDO
JUDO NOTOMI
YAMAGUCHI SHIRO

...and following close by would be:
YOKOYAMA RANPO
INOUE SHIGEMI

But keep in mind that not all flutes, even by these great makers, are "Home-Runs".

And what is ultimately more important is the player.

In Japan, they say that a great calligrapher only needs one hair left on his brush to create a masterpiece.

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#3 2009-04-16 11:41:19

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

I would imagine it is the same with violins. A great player can make almost any violin sing.I suppose the right shakuhachi and right player could be unstoppable.smile


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#4 2009-04-16 13:42:14

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

Well, if you ever had the pleasure of hearing YAMAGUCHI GORO play on one of his father's flutes, then you have heard the best !

But, on the other hand, GORO Sensei would have shown brightly even on a Yuu Shakuhachi.

His  was a sound that only came around once a century !


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#5 2009-04-17 04:32:42

Kiku Day
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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

I wish Simura satosi would answer such a question. His knowledge of shakuhachi (the instrument itself) is amazing. He has had his hands on many amazing collections. I have had my hands on a few incredible collections - but I forget the names... and forget which ones I thoguht were the best. Ahhhhh.....
Here is one fine collection. They are all Edoperiod  shakuhachi.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv276/Kikuday1/IMG_2307.jpg


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that the Christ's breath moves through
listen to this music
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#6 2009-04-17 05:55:34

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

NSFW !!!


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#7 2009-04-17 06:14:02

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

So, maybe there is that one shakuhachi that stood out from all the rest.smile


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#8 2009-04-17 07:17:20

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

Why is just one in plastic? Anyone have any idea?


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#9 2009-04-17 09:51:46

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

No-sword wrote:

Why is just one in plastic? Anyone have any idea?

Maybe THAT's the ONE!! smile


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#10 2009-04-17 11:29:31

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

Perhaps it is not the instrument but the person that is the stradovarius. smile Perhaps that is the moral to this question. smilewinkwink We all can be stradovarius.smile

Last edited by purehappiness (2009-04-17 14:00:20)


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#11 2009-04-17 16:20:54

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

Kiku what was the longest flute in that collection?


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#12 2009-04-17 18:06:48

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

That is an amazing collection of all Edo flutes! Almost a pitty those flutes are in that cabinet.


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#13 2009-04-18 15:06:50

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

Kiku Day wrote:

I wish Simura satosi would answer such a question. His knowledge of shakuhachi (the instrument itself) is amazing. He has had his hands on many amazing collections. I have had my hands on a few incredible collections - but I forget the names... and forget which ones I thoguht were the best. Ahhhhh.....
Here is one fine collection. They are all Edoperiod  shakuhachi.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv27 … G_2307.jpg

wow, that is one collection.


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Lieh-tzu

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#14 2009-04-18 15:22:53

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

fouw wrote:

I was wondering if people think there is a stradovarius of shakuhachi

hey man is there a stradocaster of shakuhachi?

I think of my hocchiku as telecasters of shakuhachi.

I think the Taimu is the upright bass of shakuhachi.


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#15 2009-04-19 01:29:32

Kiku Day
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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

Tairaku wrote:

Kiku what was the longest flute in that collection?

I can't remember.... (I should have remembered - I know!). I think something like 2.4 if we are only counting Edo shakuhachi.


I am a hole in a flute
that the Christ's breath moves through
listen to this music
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#16 2009-04-19 10:13:52

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

fouw wrote:

I wrote:

hey man is there a stradocaster of shakuhachi?

Sorry about that, my sarcasm has apparently not come through.

I got it. lol I just didn't applaud. But it was funny.


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#17 2009-04-19 12:58:42

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

Sorry about the spelling. I suppose it should be stratovarius. sad


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#18 2009-04-19 13:02:51

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

I just assume people can't spell. I keep my mouth shut unless I know them well enough to ridicule them. wink

It's Stradivarius.


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#19 2009-04-19 14:58:06

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

ABRAXAS wrote:

I just assume people can't spell. I keep my mouth shut unless I know them well enough to ridicule them. wink

It's Stradivarius.

Perhaps it was an unintentional pun (if there is such a thing) smile.


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It takes effort to attain nothingness.
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#20 2010-12-31 11:58:51

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

Kiku Day wrote:

I wish Simura satosi would answer such a question. His knowledge of shakuhachi (the instrument itself) is amazing. He has had his hands on many amazing collections. I have had my hands on a few incredible collections - but I forget the names... and forget which ones I thoguht were the best. Ahhhhh.....
Here is one fine collection. They are all Edoperiod  shakuhachi.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv27 … G_2307.jpg

OMG!!!  That is an amazing collection!!!  Can I pick just one from there,please!!!!    :-)

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#21 2010-12-31 19:29:07

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

The strad for me would be a High End MIURA KINDO !


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#22 2010-12-31 22:27:31

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

Nyogetsu wrote:

The strad for me would be a High End MIURA KINDO !

I told you I'd trade mine for your land in Hawaii!


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#23 2011-01-01 08:57:06

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

Hey , Big Guy !

I told you that land is already gone.
But, would like to trade for the Brooklyn Bridge ?


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#24 2011-01-01 10:52:09

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

Yes, Mine!

OH YES HE DID!


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#25 2011-01-01 16:07:17

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Re: Is there a stradovarius of shakuhachi?

I'd take a good Toyota over a MIURA KINDO any day.

Plenty of great shakuhachi out there for under $4000 even in today's yen.

As Yokoyama was known to say, again and again: "It's not the flute."


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