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#1 2009-06-21 16:28:47

purehappiness
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David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

I am looking at these lovely flutes and was wondering if anyone has had experience with these and if they can play good 3rd octave notes.


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#2 2009-06-21 17:03:18

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

purehappiness wrote:

I am looking at these lovely flutes and was wondering if anyone has had experience with these and if they can play good 3rd octave notes.

They can play anything you can play.


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#3 2009-06-21 18:39:36

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

What Ed said on this one.

I do own a couple of 1.8 and some 1.3 and they are pretty good and can compare to many flutes made of bamboo on the market.


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#4 2009-06-21 18:48:18

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Thats nice to hear. They are quite beautiful. I would imagine different woods would give different tones too.


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#5 2009-06-21 19:04:45

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

To some extent the woods make a difference but the work/price on the flute have to be taken in consideration


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#6 2009-06-22 09:13:28

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

I may have to add one of these to my collection.


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#7 2009-06-22 11:55:56

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

I have a 1.8 tiger myrtle, and a 2.1 silky oak.

Yes they do reach the 3rd octave. I also agree with edosan...whether they are good 3rd octave notes are up to you!


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#8 2009-06-22 16:45:47

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Not that I can hit the 3rd octave that well now but it would be nice to know the flute can do it.There is something about exotic wood though. How are they at honking RO?


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#9 2009-06-22 17:15:45

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

purehappiness wrote:

. How are they at honking RO?

It's usually the player who is good (if that's the term) at honking ro, not the flute. roll


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#10 2009-06-22 17:17:50

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Good point.


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#11 2009-06-22 18:19:46

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

purehappiness wrote:

Good point.

However that didn't stop certain knobs from trying to attract geese from Canada ad infinitum at the flute sale stand at the Sydney festival. lol


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#12 2009-06-22 18:51:39

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Another use for shakuhachi. smile Although, I could never hunt.
sad It is too cruel and I don't need to to survive.

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#13 2009-06-22 19:51:50

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Tairaku wrote:

purehappiness wrote:

Good point.

However that didn't stop certain knobs from trying to attract geese from Canada ad infinitum at the flute sale stand at the Sydney festival. lol

Who are you referring to???


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#14 2009-06-22 20:08:51

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Gishin wrote:

Who are you referring to???

You know! wink


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#15 2009-06-22 20:14:44

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Tairaku wrote:

Gishin wrote:

Who are you referring to???

You know! wink

Ha yes the listen to this one HONKKKK! guy. Now I remember.


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#16 2009-06-22 21:01:54

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Macho ro-honking has been a big part of the shakuhachi festival sidelines for as long as I have been going to any. Unrelated to music, it is like the plumage displays of male birds, but in this case there are rarely any females around and certainly none who give a fuck.

That said, David Brown makes consistently excellent flutes that can play any of the notes a good bamboo shakuhachi can play. His are the only wooden flutes I've ever really liked. He's a very impressive craftsperson.

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#17 2009-06-22 21:59:02

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

nyokai wrote:

That said, David Brown makes consistently excellent flutes that can play any of the notes a good bamboo shakuhachi can play. His are the only wooden flutes I've ever really liked. He's a very impressive craftsperson.

Yes David is the best stuff when it comes to wood and his flutes usually can compare to many bamboo ones. Tjere is also this amker that has great flutes made of wood or laminated bamboo in Japan but nobody sells them. Mejiro should sell their stuff or they should have an english side to their website. I owned some of their laminated bamboo ones and they are great. Here is the link of this maker http://www.kochyo.co.jp/products/kochyo.html

Here is a nice one I saw on their site http://www.kochyo.co.jp/products/0134.html


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#18 2009-06-22 23:05:58

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Gishin wrote:

Tairaku wrote:

Gishin wrote:

Who are you referring to???

You know! wink

Ha yes the listen to this one HONKKKK! guy. Now I remember.

I was worried I offended you. But I didn't say "knobs from Canada" I said knobs attracting geese from Canada.

But there were several knobs, unfortunately.


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#19 2009-06-23 01:02:29

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Tairaku wrote:

purehappiness wrote:

Good point.

However that didn't stop certain knobs from trying to attract geese from Canada ad infinitum at the flute sale stand at the Sydney festival. lol

The Bay Area has more than enough Canadian Geese, if anyone wants to call them away.


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#20 2009-06-23 01:30:40

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

nyokai wrote:

but in this case there are rarely any females around and certainly none who give a fuck.

Indeed my wife observed "Sensei X" honking away and asked me if there was something wrong with his technique that made his face grimace like he was having digestive problems. She did not think it was very attractive. lol


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#21 2009-06-23 02:14:43

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Okay, I am a beginner, I do not have a sensei, nor do I have anyone to play with that can demonstrate it, so can anyone send me a clip or link of someone honking RO? I'm not sure exactly what it is, but so far, it sounds like the equivalent of the popular competitive pastime of who can pee up a wall the highest.

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#22 2009-06-23 03:42:39

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Not really Talderan.

It's just the guys who think that's the only thing to test when trying a flute or who are doing it excessively and regardless of musical context that are problematic.

If you use Ed's "Search" function this topic has been covered before and someone posted a clip of Aoki Reibo or somebody doing it.

Edit: I just did that and amazingly enough it came up under a topic called.................drum roll........................."Honking Ro." And it was Ed who posted the Reibo link, which will make him even more angry and hurt that you did not use his "Search" function. wink

http://www.shakuhachiforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=3591


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#23 2009-06-23 06:03:17

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Wow. This looks like it has become a honking RO thread now smile smile Maybe if I follow some geese I can learn. smile
But first I need to get a david brown flute(in the near future), hopefully. smile


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#24 2009-06-23 09:56:43

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?

Sometimes Yamaha comes to L.A. and sets up a room to let players try their newest saxes.  You could not imagine the sound of 25  L.A. sax players in one room at one time each one trying to play faster, louder and higher than the other. Holy Mother of God! Truly an unholy din.


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#25 2009-06-23 10:59:07

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Re: David brown flutes good for 3rd octave?



I am so very angry....

...and hurt.



[Also, Bas Nijenhuis has that Aoki clip beautifully presented on his blog, here: http://shakuhachibas.blogspot.com/2009/ … nking.html

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