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How many pieces come from this temple? I am quite fond of their version of Reibo and San'ya!!
I know of a version of Tsuru no Sugomiri but have never seen the notation (can someone possibly send a copy to me?). Are there other pieces from this temple?
phil
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philipgelb wrote:
... but have never seen the notation (can someone possibly send a copy to me?).
Yes, could someone post a Kinko ryu copy online? It is very useful, as a student, to see and study a piece in notation even you if are not ready to receive instruction in it.
Riley Lee as part of his thesis presentation online has links to half-a-dozen Futaikan Reibo recordings and half-a-dozen more to Shoganken Reibo. Really enlightening to hear these two different pieces of music played by six different masters.
http://www.rileylee.net/reibo_recordings.html
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Atsuya Okuda (or maybe a Zensabo student here) might be someone to ask.
He is a scholar and practitioner of many temples' pieces, including Futaiken. I have heard his Futaiken Reibo and it is long and beautiful. *Very* long.
-Darren.
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Futaiken tsuru no sugomori is what Okuda calls Kudan tsuru no sugomori.
Phil, if you remember the recording from... was it 1902 or 1912 or so, I emailed you a while ago. That was Futaiken tsuru no sugomori.
I need to check if I have a clean score of kudan sugomori somewhere and scan it before I can send it to you. But if you want... sure.
kiku
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chikuzen wrote:
I know Godan Sugomori but not Kudan. Is this 9 parts?
Yes, it is in 9 parts, but in the Zensabo version (the only version I know) the two of the 'dan' are repeated, so we usually only play 7 dan. I should have looked for the Futaiken version while I was in Japan. I will certainly do that next time.
Kudan Sugomori is on Okuda's first CD, 'Sound of Zen'. I think the title there is simply 'Tsuru no Sugomori'
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Jin Nyodo's transmission of Futaiken Tsuru no Sugomori is a very colorful piece -- LOTS of tamane. (Phil G, it's in the Ki-Sui-An repertoire, so you may already have it somewhere.) It is not, however, divided -- at least in Kurahashi Yodo's notation -- into 9 OR 7 sections. Renpoken Tsuru no Sugomori, which is the version Jinbo Masanosuke played, is in 9 sections, and the Myoan Tsuru no Sugomori is in 7 dan.
According to Sakai Shodo's liner notes on his spectacular "Five Metamophoses of Nesting of Cranes" CD, the Futaiken version was transmitted by Onodera Genkichi (1858-1928), who was a komuso from Miyagi. Watasumi's Tsuru no Sugomori, according to Sakai Shodo, is related to this version. All of Sakai Shodo's versions track pretty closely with the the Jin Nyodo/Kurahashi Yodo scores.
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