Mujitsu and Tairaku's Shakuhachi BBQ

Ask and you will receive...

http://www1.ocn.ne.jp/~tuner/tuner_e.html

Tairaku wrote:

I tried to open the tuner on my Mac and it just opened as a new word document file (?).

You have to click on the shakuhachi root end icon. It's a .zip file with a few .dll's a .exe. and a few other files in it. With executable files like that it won't run on a mac.

Seth wrote:

Ask and you will receive...

http://www1.ocn.ne.jp/~tuner/tuner_e.html

I know of the tuner program that simply displays the note you are currently playing. It was quite useful before I wrote my own some time ago. I checked the other program that seems to be designed for makers who want to test their flutes. It seemed useful but quite buggy. What I'm looking for, however, is something that can and does actually tell you if you did well or not. Of course you could just look at the screen while you play and keep track of things yourself but that might disturb playing and would give you an advantage since you could adjust to the correct pitch. I'm hoping to have something that simply tells me to play a long Ro followed by U and then a quick Tsu->Re. After I'm dong it tells me how close I was. Anyone who has ever played Dance Dance Revolution or Guitar Hero knows what I'm talking about. The program should take my sound and compare it to the ideal sound and tell how far you are from that. I would like to get mostly random series of notes, perhaps based on patterns that are likely to come up in real music like Ri->U->Tsu->Re.

Hi Amokrun,

don't bother with "user-friendly" too much.

Cheers, udo.

P.S.: Just switched from vi to "the standard": ED
(at least for email ;-)

That was my point: what's a decent interface?
Everybody has a different vision of what a good interface is...
ED has a great interface!  And, as it sounds, your programs already have as well ;-)

Cheers, udo.

Geni-

This sounds quite interesting and exciting.

But how would it know how well one was playing a honkyoku?  Could I feed it a recroding by Riley Lee and then have it tell me how well I was at trying to mimic his pitch?

Or does it have a set of pre-recorded tunes that the user needs to stick to?

do you use this for shakuhachi training and, if so, do you think it has been helpful?

Seth

Just my opinion, but I think a tuner is next to useless. It is good for checking the mechanics of your playing, a biometric checking tool of sorts, but it doesnt help you refine your sense of pitch. As Kakizakai sensei says, such a machine only trains the eye.

A far more useful method is to use a tone generator. While it wont tell you when you are wrong, you train your ear to know when you are wrong without being told. It teaches you to listen and adjust in ways that are much more subtle, and gets you right down to listening to intonation. This is addressing the problem right at the root.

Playing with other people is the best practice though. (They might tell you when you are out!) 

Sometimes karaoke machines in Japan give you a score depending on how good your average pitch was. They also tell you how many calories you burnt.

And +1 for recording self

Last edited by caffeind (2007-12-27 18:48:42)

I use SmartMusic for shakuhachi "training". Its not Honkyoku related:-)
I practise scales-modes-intervales-play some clasical music.
I play the & record with the jazz play alongs. Take long solos...
After using it for sometimes I see that helped me a lot with the "basic" skills that one need to play with other musicians in Western music:-)
It helps because you got everything in one place. Its just a program-but somebody who want to practise & learn more will find very interesting stuff.
I don't work for SmartMusic.. Just sharing my humble experience.

Nowdays i don't use it as much as before-because I study @ New England Conservatory of Music & practice with "live" musicians.

geni

Last edited by geni (2007-12-28 00:10:45)