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#1 2007-12-24 05:10:45

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Korean Bamboo flute

Here is a great clip of a Dae kum player.

From what I was able to find on the subject it seems that this flute in Korea has lots of spiritual/religious association in history on the same level as Shakuhachi.

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24PFu7uK … re=related

http://www.koreanflute.com/Eng/daegeum.html

Last edited by Gishin (2007-12-24 05:13:36)


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#2 2007-12-28 18:00:35

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Re: Korean Bamboo flute

The Korean taegum (there are 3 main lengths) flute is said to be able to calm 100 million waves. It is used in the ancient court music called sanjo. The tradition is closely linked to sinawi or Shamanistic traditions.

The blowing edge is at the root end, the opposite to the shakuhachi. There is also a miriliton which creates a buzzing sound. I was fortunate to get one when in Korea and have learnt a few pieces. I am going to attempt to make one of my own in the new year.


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#3 2007-12-28 21:55:24

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Re: Korean Bamboo flute

The flutes that I have seen in Korea that relate more directly to Shakuhachi as musical instruments are the
Tungso and the Danso.

The Taegum is a transverse flute. Tungso and Danso are vertical end blown flutes.
I'm not sure if the distinction is really that important.

some Tungso - can be see on this page showing various Korean traditional flutes.
www.ureuk.or.kr/htm/musical05.php
The Tungso I have seen are not as elaborate as the flutes shown in this page.

Danso-
www.kcaf.or.kr/ehome3/english/danso.htm

I saw Tungso in the Jongno-samga ( Jongno-3-ga) area of Seoul near Insadong ( Insadong being the most famous touristy area near Kongbok Palace) . There are many interesting shops in the area.
Including some great small music shops.
I had a brief play of a Tungso there which has some similarity to hochiku style shakuhachi.
The utaguchi was pretty crudely crafted if compared to the refinements of Japanese inlayed utaguchi or even non-inlayed utaguchi..
The one I played was made from Madake and was about the same length as a 1.8.

Actually I would say it seemed like a possible precursor of the shakuhachi if it were assumed that the Tungso has been around since early in the first millennium and had traveled with Koreans to Japan . I say this casually without much research on the subject.
Though it really wouldn't surprise me at all if shakuhachi came to Japan via Korea (not with Korea as the source but as vector from China or elsewhere). I have never researched this. I assume others have.

The Danso is a smaller type of vertical end blown flute. They can be bought in any large department store here in Korea like E-mart or Lotte Mart ( just to indicate their prevalence). The Danso I have seen are made from black
(or dark brown) bamboo. I think it is called Murasakitake in Japan (or people call it tiger bamboo too).
Danso are small flutes.

Doing a bit of simple research on the internet I found a couple of clips of tungso but no links worth putting here.
It seemed that some people call a Tungso a Taegum. This is incorrect.

I have an interesting CD by Lee Saeng-gang a Taegum player. It s quite beautiful. If you can get your hands on any of his music I am sure you will find it interesting. There is one player here who is particularly famous but I have forgotten his name it is "master... someone". I'll make a note when I check it out.

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#4 2007-12-28 22:32:16

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Re: Korean Bamboo flute

I would like to get one of those Korean flutes.
Any ideas where to get them? (besides going to Korea or dating a Korean girl:-)

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#5 2007-12-28 23:03:51

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Re: Korean Bamboo flute

here is where you can get some decent Taegeum

http://www.koreainstru.com/?OVRAW=%EB%8 … 8361292042

To get there select the second choice then 3rd submenu


From what I can see the real stuff made of smoked bamboo lacquered bore with silver fittings etc.. is never under 1000$ all the other cheaper stuff looks to be mostly junk.

Last edited by Gishin (2007-12-28 23:12:53)


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#6 2007-12-28 23:22:37

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Re: Korean Bamboo flute

Hi geni,

I have seen some good looking taegum in a music store near me here on Jeju Island.
They have lacquered bores, are bound well and are made with nice looking bamboo.
If I remember correctly the range of price was $200-$500. The quality wouldn't be the highest but I am sure they are of a reasonable quality.
I have checked out taegum in Seoul that are around $1000 to $2000 ( and cheaper).
If you are interested in some pics of the ones here on Jeju and want to get one via me I am happy to organize that with you.

Shakuhachi is my interest not taegum as such.

If the site Gishin mentioned is not easy to navigate or the people don't speak English ( they very well may speak English or maybe you have Korean friends who can help out) etc and it is difficult to get one via them, then feel free to contact me.

Also I expect to go to Seoul in the next few months I could check out taegum then too if you are interested.

Frederick

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#7 2007-12-29 09:04:13

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Re: Korean Bamboo flute

There is a centre for traditional music and dance in Seoul. There is a musical instrument museum and shop as well as a conservatory and three large performance areas. There are concerts everyday. You can buy good quality instruments at this centre.

However, you can get Korean instruments at a better price and quality in a shop on the main road opposite the centre. I will look up and address and post at a later date.

One of the leading performers is Lee Seng Kang. You can download some free mp3s from http://www.asianclassicalmp3.org. The site says they are legal downloads.


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#8 2007-12-30 01:47:34

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Re: Korean Bamboo flute

Phil,

Do you have any sheet music for Taegum ?
If so how is it notated ?

Thanks in advance.

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#9 2007-12-30 06:20:12

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Re: Korean Bamboo flute

I have a book of scores. They are written using Chinese characters in boxes much like Tozan or koto notation. The book also contains the western notation. Unfortunately, I am away from home till the new year so do not have it at hand. I will post a scan of a score in a few days.


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