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#26 2008-11-10 11:10:43

Nyogetsu
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Re: More men than women?

At the end of the World Shakuhachi Festival in New York City (2004) , I asked "Living National Treasure" Aoki Reibo about his thoughts on the future of the Shakuhachi. He said , "More Female players."

Personally, in the 35 years that I have been teaching full-time, I can see some attitude changes - particularly among Japanese women. In 1973, Shakuhachi Sensei were willing to teach women, but Japanese women (for many reasons) were not stepping-up to ask for lessons. This has changed.

In KiSuiAn Shakuhachi Dojo, at present we have 3 licensed women Shakuhachi Masters - two jun-shihans, and one full Shihan.

Over the past 3 1/2 Decades, in general, I have taught about 20% women students at any given time, and out of my current 80 students , I teach about 15-20 women.

The only difference between male and female students is that the size of women's mouths are sometimes smaller then men's mouths, and the Shakuhachi that one selects for his/her personal instrument may reflect that. But then again, I have taught women with large mouths, and men with small mouths, so this is a rather irrelevant generalization.

I believe, as AOKI-Sensei said, that in the future, there will be many more women players.


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#27 2008-11-10 11:55:30

lowonthetotem
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Re: More men than women?

The only difference between male and female students is that the size of women's mouths are sometimes smaller then men's mouths, and the Shakuhachi that one selects for his/her personal instrument may reflect that. But then again, I have taught women with large mouths, and men with small mouths, so this is a rather irrelevant generalization.

That is interesting, as I would have thought hand size would be the most dominant differenciating factor.  I would have thought that women would be less likely to play the longer flutes because of this.


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#28 2008-11-10 14:19:37

Vevolis
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Re: More men than women?

Maybe it's simply a case of "Boys and their toys".

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#29 2008-11-10 16:02:16

baian
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Registered: 2006-03-28
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Re: More men than women?

that's got to be way more true than i would prefer to admit.

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#30 2008-11-10 16:15:55

chikuzen
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From: Cleveland Heights,OH 44118
Registered: 2005-10-24
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Re: More men than women?

I find finger size AND chin size to set limits sometimes. We just had to find smaller flutes. I've had this with men also but much less.


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#31 2008-11-10 17:19:22

Kiku Day
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From: London, UK & Nørre Snede, DK
Registered: 2005-10-07
Posts: 922
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Re: More men than women?

Tairaku wrote:

Anyway controversy is not exclusively male, look at Kiku Day! She likes a good brawl.

WHAT??? Brawl? ME?
Am I not always being an angel, highly civilised and sophisticated in all my posts ? ? ?
I do not understand ! ! ! wink

At SOAS, University of London, we are 3 PhD candidates focusing on shakuhachi. One is me (and you probably don't want to hear about me anymore); the second is Chris Mau (he was in Sydney) focusing on the spiritual aspect of shakuhachi playing; the third is Deirdre Healey, who at least in the beginning was focusing on female shakuhachi players. She is having a rest with her PhD. let's hope she will come back again!

Michelle, please do not hesitate to come with comments when there is something interesting to comment on. It is nice that I am not alone! smile


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#32 2008-11-11 01:02:47

airin
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From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Re: More men than women?

Kiku Day wrote:

Michelle, please do not hesitate to come with comments when there is something interesting to comment on. It is nice that I am not alone! smile

Michelle, Kiku....at least there's three of us here!  :-)

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#33 2008-11-11 01:52:07

mrj156
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Registered: 2008-10-18
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Re: More men than women?

I will definitely comment if something catches my fancy, as I did in this topic. However, at this point much of the discussion on this forum is over my head. For now I will watch. listen and learn.
Michele

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#34 2008-11-11 02:54:29

Kiku Day
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From: London, UK & Nørre Snede, DK
Registered: 2005-10-07
Posts: 922
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Re: More men than women?

Ohhhh.... how nice with 3 posts right after each other by women shakuhachi players.
Airin, Michele. Good to know you are here! smile


I am a hole in a flute
that the Christ's breath moves through
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#35 2008-11-11 10:31:48

Jim Thompson
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Re: More men than women?

It's good to see ours sisters particpating. Your presence here is welcome and needed. This is a great place to ask questions, and there is no such thing as a dumb question.

mrj156 wrote:

I will definitely comment if something catches my fancy, as I did in this topic. However, at this point much of the discussion on this forum is over my head. For now I will watch. listen and learn.
Michele


" Who do you trust , me or your own eyes?" - Groucho Marx

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#36 2008-11-11 19:49:51

axolotl
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From: Los Angeles
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Re: More men than women?

Shakuhachi is a relatively rare instrument, so sampling size is a difficult issue in estimating how and why there aren't as many women playing (outside of Japan).  It's no doubt due to the same reasons that there are fewer female particle physicists--very subtle, or sometimes not so subtle, societal pressures driving men and women towards and away certain areas and fields.  However!  Due to the fact that it's a small musical area, it can be greatly influenced by teachers who are progressive in their mindset.  Seems like we have many among us. 

In comparison, take a look at the guitar: why are there still a zillion more men who play guitar than women?  You'd think that would have equalized by now, and yet it hasn't.  As I mentioned above, though, there's a better chance for aspiring students and teachers to be the change they want to see in the world, if they so desire.

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