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#1 2009-01-19 19:21:58

ABRAXAS
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Digital Recorders

How many of you use digital recorders to tape your private practice and/or performance in order to observe and tweak your strengths and weaknesses?

Any specific recommendations for affordable recorders or specific types of mics to use? I'm looking for something small and affordable.

I'm interested and any and all tips and observations on this, on any aspect of the practice, tech, or procedures.

Thanks!
Jim


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#2 2009-01-19 20:22:34

BrianP
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Re: Digital Recorders

I use the Olympus WS-300.  It is a great digital recorder with a built in USB when you pull it apart. 

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#3 2009-01-19 21:05:35

geni
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Re: Digital Recorders

I will go for a cheap software. There are pleanty that are free for PC. For Mac. Garage band is good & cheap.

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#4 2009-01-19 21:15:01

airin
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Re: Digital Recorders

Yeah, I really like to use my digital recorder to record my actual lessons and to record my practice sessions (but only occasionally as my own playing is kind of difficult to listen to at this point...LOL).

I use a old Olympus DSS digital recorder that I bought for cheap from craigslist. The quality and range of the Olympus is impressive.

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#5 2009-01-19 21:20:46

ABRAXAS
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Re: Digital Recorders

I've been using my laptop and a cheap mic, but I'm looking for something a little more compact with a better mic that is more convenient to have close when I play. The only way I get halfway decent recording is by actually putting the tip of the mic IN the end of the bore!

I'll be taking a closer look at Olympus recorders soon! Thank You!

J.


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#6 2009-01-19 22:17:03

edosan
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From: Salt Lake City
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Re: Digital Recorders

These two items are worth looking into as well.

   Zoom H2 & H4:

     http://zoomh4.net/

There are quite a few good (Google-able) reviews out there to help you with their differences and evaluate strengths & weaknesses.


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#7 2009-01-19 23:00:17

geni
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Re: Digital Recorders

I use the Zoom H4. Its awesome. It`s not cheap.

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#8 2009-01-19 23:32:09

jaybeemusic
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From: Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada
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Re: Digital Recorders

I use the Boss Micro BR

http://www.roland.com/products/en/MICRO_BR/index.html

It's really geared for guitar.... but then again....i'm a guitarist.....

it's got 4 tracks, you can record direct to .mp3 format and it has a built in mic.  plus it records on SD cards
like a digital camera....

oh yeah....it even has a tuner and a metronome.....

btw...Erin...  the PVC demo recording i sent you was done with the Micro BR... just to give you an idea.....

anyhoo....that's my 2 cents...

jacques

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#9 2009-01-19 23:44:15

airin
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Re: Digital Recorders

Wow, that looks like a very slick device jacques...definitely a cut above my little digital voice recorder!

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#10 2009-01-20 01:01:53

Jeff Cairns
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From: Kumamoto, Japan
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Re: Digital Recorders

I also use the H4 which I have mentioned elsewhere.  It's a versitile unit that allows many options and easy H4 to PC transfer either via USB or SD.  I think that it's very reasonably priced.


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#11 2009-01-20 09:41:30

MikeL
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Re: Digital Recorders

I use the Edirol R-09, and I love it. Pretty expensive though. The built in
stereo mics are great, that's all I've ever used to record lessons and
concerts. The recorded files are MP3 format, and you can transfer to
a computer via the built in USB port. It was pretty easy to find a digital
camera case that was a good fit, and has storage for spare batteries
and SD cards. SD card prices have gone way down, so a very large
capacity card is affordable.
http://www.edirol.net/products/en/R-09/

I use the free Audacity software to edit the MP3 files.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

I've also used Audacity to convert my old cassette tape recordings
to MP3 format.

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#12 2009-01-20 11:29:52

Yu-Jin
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From: San Diego
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Re: Digital Recorders

ZOOM H4 has been working great for me.

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#13 2009-01-20 21:07:50

Justin
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From: Japan
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Re: Digital Recorders

I use the Microtrack. The Edirol came out to compete with it I think but the Microtrack is reported to have better quality of sound. Comes with a nice mic but you can put expensive mics into it too. The one thing the Edirol has over the Microtrack though is that it has regular batteries you can change, whereas Microtrack has an inbuilt non-removable battery so you have to plug it in to recharge it.

Justin
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#14 2009-01-21 11:15:18

ABRAXAS
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Re: Digital Recorders

These are all examples I may have never arrived at by randomly shopping for recorders. Thanks for sharing your experiences and suggestions, I'll weigh these options and compare.


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#15 2009-01-21 13:38:46

YuccaBruce
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From: Tucson
Registered: 2008-07-06
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Re: Digital Recorders

Thanks-I found good information above
I have been looking for a device that
can yield a high quality recording
-I just bought an Edirol R-09
for $340
we'll see

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#16 2009-02-10 23:41:10

tablaninja
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From: Durham NC
Registered: 2008-12-21
Posts: 4
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Re: Digital Recorders

Olympus LS-10!!! All day, my favorite handheld recorder ever, and I've owned them all. Well, almost. Tascam has a few new ones out that have great features. http://www.tascam.com/catalogue;40,12.html
I believe the DR-1 lets you monitor thru a reverb while you practice, which the LS-10 does not do. The LS-10 does have an option to play back your recordings thru a choice of nice reverbs.

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