Mujitsu and Tairaku's Shakuhachi BBQ

david · 2009-01-19 10:48:21

Hello,
Is there an on-line source (maybe a page or two or three) that has a picture of all notes symbols used in notation, with the name and explanation? It is a perverbial pain in the butt, to have to go through my few books and try to find what a new (to me) symbol is.
Or at least the name of the publication with the most thorough dictionary of notation / symbols?

Thank you in advance!

Bas Nijenhuis · 2009-01-19 11:26:43

http://www.shakuhachisociety.eu/fingeringchart.htm

check this one out on the europian society of shakuhachi

Mujitsu · 2009-01-19 11:33:21

david wrote:
Hello,
Is there an on-line source (maybe a page or two or three) that has a picture of all notes symbols used in notation, with the name and explanation? It is a perverbial pain in the butt, to have to go through my few books and try to find what a new (to me) symbol is.
Or at least the name of the publication with the most thorough dictionary of notation / symbols?

Thank you in advance!

David,

Here are a few more:

http://www.shakuhachi.com/Y-FingeringChart-p1.html

http://www.shakuhachiflutes.com/f5.pdf

I believe Al Ramos has one on his site as well.

Ken

edosan · 2009-01-19 12:25:09

Try these (direct links to PDF download).

First octave:

http://japanshakuhachi.com/Resources/Fi … ingeri.pdf

Second octave:

http://japanshakuhachi.com/Resources/Se … ingeri.pdf

Third octave:

http://japanshakuhachi.com/Resources/Th … 20fing.pdf

These are Kinko charts, and include the names for the fingerings, as well as Western pitch equivalents for 1.8.

[compliments of David Sawyer, japanshakuhachi.com]

BTW: I recommend this page for all beginners: http://japanshakuhachi.com/gettingstarted.html

Last edited by edosan (2009-01-19 12:28:11)

david · 2009-01-19 12:56:59

Thanks, I did not have half of those. But, unfortunately I am still puzzled. Let me give you two examples of what I'm looking for. These are huge stumbling blocks for me and I'm sure you will chuckle when you see what I'm stumbling on.

The first thing is a note from 'ichi on jobutsu' from Kofu Kikusui (page 256, The Annals of the International Shakuhachi Society, Vol 2). The note first appears on the top of the second line. It looks like an exaggerated RO, but it looks like it is supposed to be different than RO. What is it?

Second, is the first note in 'Uki Gumo'? It looks like the symbol for dai kan, but there is no kan and there is no first note. This is obviously the first note, but what is it?

I realy wish there was one source / glossary for all symbols and notation for us self learners.

david · 2009-01-19 13:20:05

There is also (for ichi on jobutsu) the fishy looking things that start near the bottom of the second line and the RO's with mohawks which start on the third line 8^)

Tairaku 太楽 · 2009-01-19 13:54:55

david wrote:
I realy wish there was one source / glossary for all symbols and notation for us self learners.

Alas, the notation differs from school to school, and even from player to player in the same school. There is no uniformity in Japanese music notation. So what you're asking for is not possible.

nyokai · 2009-01-19 16:27:00

David --

As Brian intimated, you cannot learn traditional shakuhachi on your own via charts and notation, especially pieces outside your own school. The notation is at best a good reminder of what your teacher taught you and more often a very incomplete reminder of what your teacher taught you. Unlike Western notation, it does not function as the total and official description of a set piece.

Last edited by nyokai (2009-01-20 02:56:06)

Zakarius · 2009-01-20 07:19:36

Having studied on my own for the first year, I can relate to your frustration. I'd suggest you take a look at the following resources which I found invaluable. They sell clear notation and matching recordings. I believe it's a good place to start until you finally hit the solo plateau.

http://www.japanworldmusic.com/shakuhac … scores.htm

Zak

Mujitsu and Tairaku's Shakuhachi BBQ

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online source with all notation and symbols?

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