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#1 2009-06-25 02:00:44

Kiku Day
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From: London, UK & Nørre Snede, DK
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35,000 years old 5-holed shakuhachi

Hello everybody,

A friend lead my attention to this article about a 35,000 years old flute found in Germany.
The flut has 5 holes! smile

http://tinyurl.com/n8d5nu


I am a hole in a flute
that the Christ's breath moves through
listen to this music
Hafiz

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#2 2009-06-25 03:02:15

Tairaku 太楽
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Re: 35,000 years old 5-holed shakuhachi

Kiku Day wrote:

A friend lead my attention to this article about a 35,000 years old flute found in Germany.

Well now at least we know that Horst is at least 35,000 years old. cool


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#3 2009-06-25 09:04:43

madoherty
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Re: 35,000 years old 5-holed shakuhachi

That's incredible.  Thanks Kiku.

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#4 2009-06-25 09:16:58

lowonthetotem
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Re: 35,000 years old 5-holed shakuhachi

So they made a flute that lasted 35,000 years.  I wonder how long their socks went before they needed darning.


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#5 2009-06-25 11:34:32

ABRAXAS
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Re: 35,000 years old 5-holed shakuhachi

I actually have an old human femur (thigh bone) I was going to ask Ken if he could make a shakuhachi out of it for me.


"Shakuhachi music stirs up both gods and demons." -- Ikkyu.

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#6 2009-06-25 15:46:41

Kiku Day
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From: London, UK & Nørre Snede, DK
Registered: 2005-10-07
Posts: 922
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Re: 35,000 years old 5-holed shakuhachi

ABRAXAS wrote:

I actually have an old human femur (thigh bone) I was going to ask Ken if he could make a shakuhachi out of it for me.

Hi Abraxas,
Wow! Who did you kill to get your hands on that? Ok, you did write it was old.... wink
If you do make a shakuhachi out of it.... we want recordings! tongue

Hi there
It is ok to joke about jinashi. You know, once a jinashi warrior goddess... always a.....   roll


I am a hole in a flute
that the Christ's breath moves through
listen to this music
Hafiz

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#7 2009-06-25 16:02:08

ABRAXAS
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Re: 35,000 years old 5-holed shakuhachi

I had a brief period (about 8 years) with dealing in osteological specimens (long story), and wound up with an odd collection of stuff including human skulls. I regret selling the last skeleton, but I did keep about 10 human skulls for the permanant collection. I still have a box of mismatched parts including a complete spinal column, a jar of teeth, ribs etc. and the femur, but I think the femur may be too dried out to make anything out of without cracking.

Very few people experience my home decor without emotional scars. wink

I had a friend years ago who had a HUGE collection of artifacts from Tibet and Nepal including drums and bowls made from human crania and trumpets made from thigh-bones. Nothing I have is that old or "culturally associated" - mostly medical/museum-type specimens.


"Shakuhachi music stirs up both gods and demons." -- Ikkyu.

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#8 2009-06-25 16:28:58

ABRAXAS
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#9 2009-06-25 19:40:10

Alan Adler
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From: Los Altos, California
Registered: 2009-02-15
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Re: 35,000 years old 5-holed shakuhachi

Perhaps many of you saw this recent news item on an old bone flute recovered from a cave in Germany.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news … ument.html

I asked baroque flute maker Rod Cameron how does one blow a notched flute like this and he replied:

"Notched flutes are very common in ancient bone flutes and I have made replicas that are now in Scottish museums. The notch is a fast way to produce a rough Shakuhachi blowing edge. It gives a focused breath target and is blown exactly as you would your flutes, end blown and hunt for the sweet spot. Hold it exactly as you would your own designs."

Best regards,

Alan

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