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#1 2009-07-21 17:35:24

choshi paul cooper
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Sanya

Hi,

Can anyone fill me in on the meaning of the term Sanya such as in Jinbo Sanya and Futaiken Sanya.

Thank you

choshi

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#2 2009-07-21 22:54:10

Zakarius
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Re: Sanya

Check out http://www.komuso.com/pieces/index.html#S for a list of pieces which begin with S.

In most pieces named Sanya, the kanji is 三谷 which means 'three valleys'. This is often noted to be in reference to the way the pieces moves between otsu (lower octave) and kan (middle octave) and back and forth, as if one were traversing mountain valleys.

Another piece called Sanya has different kanji -- 山谷 which means 'mountain valley'. Some features of the song are similar to that of the three valley pieces.

Zak

(edited after caffeind pointed out the error)

Last edited by Zakarius (2009-07-22 11:51:50)


塵も積もれば山となる -- "Chiri mo tsumoreba yama to naru." -- Piled-up specks of dust become a mountain.

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#3 2009-07-22 03:23:21

choshi paul cooper
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Re: Sanya

Thank you Zak. Very interesting.

choshi

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#4 2009-07-22 06:40:04

caffeind
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Re: Sanya

三谷=lit. three valleys
山谷=lit. mountain valley

I read somewhere that Sanya came from a Sanskrit word. I asked around and was told that it may relates to shunyata/sanyata, which means enlightenment. The komuso.com site has several other explanations.... Sanskrit word for 'meeting', safe delivery in childbirth, etc.

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#5 2009-07-22 10:45:23

choshi paul cooper
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Re: Sanya

Hi Caffeind,

Very interesting! I read somewhere that it is believed that Futaiken Sanya insures a safe and easy childbirth.
The 3 mountains /valleys seems consistent in both your and Zak's explanations and makes sense in terms ofthe structure of the peices moving between otsu and kan.

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