Mujitsu and Tairaku's Shakuhachi BBQ

Moran from Planet X · 2006-07-19 23:46:46

Just to turn the question inside out. Reading the jazz/rock/improv thread, I was wondering if there is any mention in the literature about the great modern (recorded) shakuhachi players being influenced by the jazz greats?

Imagine Watazumi listening to Charlie Parker, Jin Nyodo swinging to Lester Young, Yamaguchi Goro trading eights with Ben Webster ...

dstone · 2006-07-22 01:00:53

Chris Moran wrote:
I was wondering if there is any mention in the literature about the great modern (recorded) shakuhachi players being influenced by the jazz greats?

Maybe this is too obvious... Atsuya Okuda is a great modern recorded honkyoku player with a professional jazz background.

I'm not as familiar with his work but Yamamoto Hozan straddles jazz and traditional shakuhachi. Speaking of which... Is anyone familiar with the CD "Masters of Zen - Shakuhachi & Organ" by Yamamoto Hozan & Wolfgang Mitterer?

-Darren.

Tairaku 太楽 · 2006-07-22 18:42:19

Chris Moran wrote:
Imagine Watazumi listening to Charlie Parker

Watazumi is reputed to have said listening to jazz would improve the students' honkyoku skills. He also worked with jazz great Steve Lacy, although Lacy was the student and Watazumi the master in that case.

Moran from Planet X · 2006-07-23 02:29:02

dstone wrote:
Atsuya Okuda is a great modern recorded honkyoku player with a professional jazz background.

Are there any recordings of Okuda playing trumpet and has he ever mentioned his jazz trumpet influences?

Tairaku wrote:
Watazumi is reputed to have said listening to jazz would improve the students' honkyoku skills. He also worked with jazz great Steve Lacy, although Lacy was the student and Watazumi the master in that case.

Wouldn't you have loved to have been a fly on the wall to just one of those lessons?

(Teachers can get quite a bit of influence and juice if they pay attention to their students ... )

Last edited by Chris Moran (2006-07-23 15:20:05)

philipgelb · 2006-07-24 01:20:12

Tairaku wrote:
Chris Moran wrote:
Imagine Watazumi listening to Charlie Parker
Watazumi is reputed to have said listening to jazz would improve the students' honkyoku skills. He also worked with jazz great Steve Lacy, although Lacy was the student and Watazumi the master in that case.

It is hard to imagine that Watasumi did not learn anything from Lacy!!! Watasumi spent a lot of time around musicians like Coltrane, Roscoe Mitchell, Pauline Oliveros and many other "avant garde" improvisors that one can fairly safely assume he appreciated and respected their approaches greatly. He obviously was not coming to the states and Europe and seeking out traditional jazz or smooth jazz players.

Brian, your duet with Neptune on the Don Cherry piece...i would have liked to heard that one

phil

Mujitsu and Tairaku's Shakuhachi BBQ

#1 2006-07-19 23:46:46

Jazz influence on modern traditional shakuhachi players?

#2 2006-07-22 01:00:53

Re: Jazz influence on modern traditional shakuhachi players?

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#3 2006-07-22 18:42:19

Re: Jazz influence on modern traditional shakuhachi players?

Chris Moran wrote:

#4 2006-07-23 02:29:02

Re: Jazz influence on modern traditional shakuhachi players?

dstone wrote:

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#5 2006-07-24 01:20:12

Re: Jazz influence on modern traditional shakuhachi players?

Tairaku wrote:

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