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#1 2010-10-18 16:08:54

VanillaMoose
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My new Shakuhachi...

Hi guys, I hope you knowledgeable folk might be able to help me out. I've recently aquired a Shakuhachi flute and  I'm curious as to whether you can tell me anything about it including if it might be worth anything. As I'm a total novice I have no idea if it is a traditional flute or something more mass produced (even though I believe bamboo flutes can't be mass produced as they are all individual...correct me if i'm wrong).  I'm not interested in selling it as it's a wonderful instrument but would like to know if it has any value and if it was made in Japan (I don't know if you can tell this from photos!)

There are some images of it here... http://img691.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=img00041h.jpg (apologies if external links are disallowed)

Thanks for reading.

p.s. It also has a lovely protective fabric case (silk I think) decorated with a sewn red and orange momiji leaf pattern.

Ken

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#2 2010-10-18 16:59:32

Christopher B.
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Re: My new Shakuhachi...

Hm I cant say much, judging a flute with just pictures isnt possible. Does the flute has a hanko?  If it is so, maybe someone can say you something about the maker. Its has a Tozan Inlay and looks like a Jiari but the pictures are not so well.

You should ask your teacher or someone who as more practice to tell you if it is good or not.

Be well,

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#3 2010-10-19 04:23:51

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Re: My new Shakuhachi...

It looks like a Japanese hand made Tozan shakuhachi with some repairs. Does not look very old but could be anytime within the last 50 years. Probably not worth very much but hard to tell without playing it.


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#4 2010-10-19 16:48:56

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Re: My new Shakuhachi...

The bottom node doesn't have the right number of roots for typical Japanese aesthetics. I think it's supposed to have 32. My thought is that a piece of bamboo that doesn't fit that aesthetic isn't going to have as much effort put into making it a great playing instrument because the Japanese sale value is already diminished before starting the work.


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#5 2010-10-19 19:30:21

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Re: My new Shakuhachi...

radi0gnome wrote:

My thought is that a piece of bamboo that doesn't fit that aesthetic isn't going to have as much effort put into making it a great playing instrument because the Japanese sale value is already diminished before starting the work.

I would disagree with this, a bit. It's true that it doesn't look like something a maker would try to sell for a high price on the open market. But it might have been made by a teacher, for a student, in which case it might have been tuned very carefully and well (w/r/t the tradition the teacher is transmitting, of course), with the superficial flaws ignored.

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#6 2010-10-19 21:30:42

Moran from Planet X
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Re: My new Shakuhachi...

Christopher B. wrote:

Does the flute has a hanko?

Just say it's a rare Tozan Kindo and sell it on the forum for $32,000.


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#7 2010-10-19 23:25:28

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Re: My new Shakuhachi...

its hard to tell without playing it. But, how much you payed for it? Where did you buy it from? With shakuhachi there are no deals most of the time ;-)

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#8 2010-10-19 23:41:49

Tairaku 太楽
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Re: My new Shakuhachi...

Moose ignore some of the knobs up here there. They are having in jokes.

When I said not worth very much I meant not likely to be a very collectible item, however depending upon how much you paid, it could be a bargain.


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#9 2010-10-19 23:47:33

Moran from Planet X
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Re: My new Shakuhachi...

Tairaku 太楽 wrote:

Moose ignore some of the knobs up here there.

I beg to differ with you.

Geni is not a knob.


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