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#1 2006-09-30 21:05:53

LStanford
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hiku?

I'm working on my first honkyoku, Kyorei.  On the first "u" there's the kanji for "Hiku" which means to pull or to play guitar or piano.  Are you supposed to drop in pitch?  How far?  What's the notation called?

Lee

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#2 2006-09-30 21:22:19

edosan
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Re: hiku?

You are supposed to drop the U a half step, to the pitch of Re.

This move from U to U no Re is a common element in honkyoku. Generally you will see the notation for meri after the U--
it looks like a an italicized 'x'.

Sounds like the notation you have is the more archaic one. If you like a more straightforward score, email me and I'll send
you one.

Do you have a good recording to follow for this?

eB


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#3 2006-09-30 22:23:02

LStanford
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Re: hiku?

Thanks.  That's what I was doing--dropping U 1/2 step doen to RE.  My score is very old looking (very beautiful though!) instead of the meri symbol (japanese katakana for tsu) I have the "hiku" kanji?  Do you speak any Japanese, Edosan?

I would love to see your transcription and no, I have no recording of this piece.  Do you?

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#4 2006-09-30 22:40:19

nyokai
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Re: hiku?

Hiku is very common notation. Though it literally means "pull", it is used to mean lower the head. It is often used to indicate lowering the note by means of the head without using any partial fingering.

Sounds like you might have a Jin Nyodo or Yodo Kurahashi version of Kyorei. For the symbols in this form of notation, see http://nyokai.com/jinsym.pdf

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#5 2006-10-01 10:50:29

LStanford
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Re: hiku?

Thanks.  That's a great chart. 

Lee

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#6 2006-10-01 11:07:00

Harry
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Re: hiku?

Perry Yung playing Kyorei:

http://www.yungflutes.com/samples/c926kyorei.mp3

Michael Gould playing it: (second item down)

http://shakblog.com/index.php?paged=5

Regards,

Harry.


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#7 2006-10-01 16:55:06

LStanford
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Re: hiku?

Thanks.  I especially liked the Michael Gould version.  This is a huge help.

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