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#1 2007-01-06 08:41:40

eiryuu
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Vintage Recordings from 78's

Hello all. I made a website of Shakuhachi a month ago. Most files are MP3. The sources are 78s.
There are many styles of Shakuhachi. The site is made by Japanese. But you can easily find
the MP3 files and listen them. I hope you enjoy the Shakuhachi music. Cheers, eiryuu
http://www.sepia.dti.ne.jp/shakuhachi/

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#2 2007-01-06 10:37:04

JF Lagrost
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Very interesting. Thank you !

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#3 2007-01-06 12:45:36

Harry
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Wonderful! Thank you.

I'm only sorry I don't read Japanese.

Cheers,

Harry.


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#4 2007-01-06 15:24:04

indigo
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Dear Eiryuu

Thankyou so much for introducing  the recorded sounds of the shakuhachi masters of the past to the forum.  This is a priceless resource.  Wonderful.

Many thanks, sincerely

Indigo

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#5 2007-01-06 17:50:43

Elliot K
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Eiryuu,
   Let me add my humble thanks for your efforts putting that site together. It's an amazing gift to shakuhachi enthusiasts everywhere and I personally look forward to exploring each of the entries in depth. Keep up the good work!
Domo arigato gozaimashita,

Elliot

PS: Akemashita omedeto gozaimasu!

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#6 2007-01-06 19:33:40

Tairaku 太楽
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Eiryuu,

This is the most valuable contribution anybody has made to the forum. Thank you very much!

Regards,

Tairaku


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#7 2007-01-07 18:33:10

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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

WOW! What a resource to hear all these early 20th century players i have only read about before.
Much appreciation!!!!!

phil


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#8 2007-01-07 19:33:01

Travis Winegar
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Amazing site; thank you very much for putting that together.  I have also added it to my link list and to the shakuhachi search engine!

~travis~


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#9 2007-01-09 16:53:09

Tairaku 太楽
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Does anybody else have any 78's or reliable dubs of old shakuhachi recordings, or know of a source? If you do please contact me off forum.


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#10 2007-01-10 17:11:34

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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

That is superb!!  Thank you for setting up that site.  Could I use one of those recording on my website?  I will put a link to your site with that banner.
                                                                Chris

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#11 2007-01-11 11:24:39

PSTL
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

eiryuu,

Thank you. Your site is a treasure.

It might be an idea to have this material duplicated on the International Shakuhachi Society site, or some other archive site.

You have my vote for forum member of the year. cool

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#12 2007-01-14 09:26:36

eiryuu
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Thank you for a lot of comment. You may reprint it somewhere.
Let's introduce one site where it seems that it is significant.
http://www.musicon.co.jp/honkyoku.htm
The player is Naoki Koorikawa.
"Shirabe", "Sagariha" and "Matsukaze" are Kinpuu-ryu.
He played them by 2-shaku jinashi.
"Tsuruno-sugomori" and "Reibo" are told by Genkichi Onodera.
"Sugomori" played by old 1.7-shaku and "Reibo" by present 2-shaku.
"Sanya" is Jinbo-sanya. Played by 2-shaku.
"Kyorei" is Meian-ryu or Myouan-ryu. Played by 2.7-shaku.

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#13 2007-01-14 20:42:09

Seth
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Eiryuu-

A thousand sincere thanks.

I am ashamed to admit - though now it seems obvious - that I had not know until now that Eisasi Oiwake has words that go along with the tune!

Very, very beautiful music.   My excitment for shakuhachi has been completly refreshed.

Thanks!!!!

Seth

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#14 2007-01-15 15:48:54

Moran from Planet X
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Has there been more than one Onodera Genkichi ? (Jin Nyodo notes on an ISS page list one particular Onodera's death at 1925)

The recordings on Eiryuu's site which intrigue me most (there are so many great pieces) are those listed as by Yokoyama Ranpo and a (young?) Watazumi.

On the second site listed, who plays Jinbo Sanya and Kyorei?

Thank you very much, Eiryuu, for sharing these valuable recordings!

Last edited by Chris Moran (2007-01-15 15:51:54)


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#15 2007-01-15 20:38:02

eiryuu
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Chris Moran wrote:

Has there been more than one Onodera Genkichi ? (Jin Nyodo notes on an ISS page list one particular Onodera's death at 1925)

On the second site listed, who plays Jinbo Sanya and Kyorei?

Koorikawa Naoki plays all tunes on the second site I listed.
Koorikawa Naoki studied Kinko-ryu from Iiyama Nyoun and Iga Jundo, Kinpu-ryu from Uchiyama Reigetsu
and Okamoto Chikugai. There is only one person, Onodera Genkichi.

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#16 2007-01-16 15:41:16

Moran from Planet X
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Thank you again, Eiryyu.

So if I understand this right,  Onodera Genkichi (1859-1928) was a komuso. He was earlier in the same lineage as Uchiyama Reigetsu (1909 - 19??).  Uchiyama Reigetsu was also a contemporary of Jin Nyodo (1891-1966)

Okamoto Chikugai (1915-2000) was both a teacher to Mitsuhashi Kifu and Korikawa Naoki. Okamoto Chikugai has also been credited as having influence upon Watazumidoso.


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#17 2007-01-19 05:59:47

eiryuu
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

Hi Chris. You know a lot than me.

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#18 2007-01-19 12:08:19

Moran from Planet X
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Re: Vintage Recordings from 78's

eiryuu wrote:

Hi Chris. You know a lot than me.

Thank you, Eiryuu. I am certain that I do not know more than you, but I am just piecing together information I got from Riley Lee's research and International Shakuhachi Society. I am very interested in the relationships of one historical player to another in shaping styles ansd schools.

Your recent posting was my very first instroduction to Naoki Koorikawa and your earlier postings of Ranpo and Watazumi and Rando were extraordinary and so valuable.

--Chris

Last edited by Chris Moran (2007-01-22 06:15:39)


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