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#1 2007-09-03 14:24:22

dstone
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New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Alcvin's last CD with Satomi Saeki on koto was excellent, but finally "Volume 1" of his new solo shakuhachi will be available "soon".

I can't find the track listing but it promises to be 12 tracks of koten honkyoku.  For those who don't know Al, he lives and breathes honkyoku, nestled in a postcard setting, on BC's sunshine coast.  It all comes out in his music so this CD is bound to be worth the wait.

Oliver Sudden is taking pre-orders. 

http://bamboo-in.com/shop/images/ZenShakuhachi_Vol1_COVER.jpg

Last edited by dstone (2007-09-03 14:34:20)


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#2 2007-09-03 16:33:14

Tairaku 太楽
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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Looks good. Nice cover too, did you do that Darren?


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#3 2007-09-03 18:43:28

Kiku Day
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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Just a question, Darren.

Is it intentional that the kanji only says ko honkyoku while you wrote koten honkyoku in your post?
I have never heard the term ko honkyoku, but that, especially in Japanese, does not mean it is not a correct term or a term that one can use.

koten honkyoku: 古典本曲
On the CD, ko honkyoku: 古本曲

Actually, I alwasy thought Al was very good at picking up nice new words in Japanese not heard so much before and hey it would be nice to know if ko-honkyoku is in use too! smile .

Looking forward to hear the CD!

Kiku

Last edited by kikuday (2007-09-03 18:43:50)


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#4 2007-09-03 19:23:22

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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Brian...  thanks, but heck no, I had no hand in his album.  I'm just looking forward to hearing it, that's all!

Kiku, very astute.  Yup, sure enough, my scores here read 古典本曲 as you suggest.  I wish it wasn't like this but I know only a dangerously small amount of Japanese hmm and even less kanji.  So I can't speculate about the missing character.  I wrote "koten honkyoku" because I'm sure that's what Al told me at one point.  I'll ask him what's up with the discrepancy and report back if he doesn't get here first.

-Darren.


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#5 2007-09-03 20:17:58

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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Any inkling of the playlist on this CD, Darren?

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#6 2007-09-03 21:50:55

Ryuzen
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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Hi Kiku,

I realize that I may be breaking some rules here. I know no one in and out of Japan who used "KO HONKOYKU" ??? before. But I decided to use KO HONKYOKU on the cover of the new CD for a few reasons. First, I wanted to simplify the kanji. I wanted to convey this act of taking away, paring down, as my life is constantly going in this direction. KO is also referring to ?? "koten" (classical) and ?? "koden” (legendary) and I didn't want to write out all the kanji for those two charactures. Also, the honkyoku are based on the old but constantly being recreated anew by each individual, as we play from the heart (????), thereby, essentially, breaking the strict rules of classicism, so ommitting the "ten" and "den" seemed fitting. And, 3 kanji is more auspicious than 4 kanji on the cover, as three alludes to the three powers (heaven, earth, man) but 4 is an inauspicious number in Japan since its pronunciation alludes to death (shi).

Gomen nasai to the hardcore scholars!!!

Ts'ai Ken T'an (and my father-in law) said: Water which is too pure has no fish.

Best,

Alcvin

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#7 2007-09-03 22:03:00

Ryuzen
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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Edo-san,

Here is the playlist you requested:

1. Hon Shirabe 4:10

2. Tamuke 4:11

3. San'ya 6:57

4. Shika no Tône 6:31

5. Shingetsu 4:58

6. Daha 4:47

7. San-An 6:52

8. Sagari-Ha 3:39

9. Reibo 14:39

10. Sokkan 5:45

11: Yamagoe  4:24

12. Neri Saji 7:13

13. Kumoi Jishi 3:30

Total time: 74:56

Best,

Alcvin


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#8 2007-09-04 00:21:14

geni
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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Looking forward to it!!
What length flutes are you using?

Geni

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#9 2007-09-04 05:12:17

Daniel Ryudo
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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Concerning the term Ko Honkyoku, that's what the Japanese are always doing with English, paring down English words and phrases, so your action is not without precedent.  And those lucky numbers are important...  Congratulations on the album!  Looking forward to hearing it.

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#10 2007-09-04 07:39:24

Kiku Day
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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Takegawa wrote:

I realize that I may be breaking some rules here.

Oh well, who cares! Rules are there to be broken - especially if done elegantly... and your cover certainly is elegant! smile

Takegawa wrote:

KO is also referring to ?? "koten" (classical) and ?? "koden” (legendary) and I didn't want to write out all the kanji for those two charactures.

典 can apparently carry a lot of meanings, such as ceremony; celebration; law code; rule.

I was curious if it was an expression I didn't know. And if it was a 'home made' expression, I was curious to know what was behind it.
Well done on both the new term and the CD. Can't wait till listening to it.
I heard from Shugetsu you are playing his flutes.

Last edited by kikuday (2007-09-04 07:40:11)


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#11 2007-09-19 13:14:42

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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Does anyone know if this album was officially released yet?  I am also interested in the flute lengths too.   Mostly jiari , jinashi or...? I ordered it and I can't wait to hear it.

Thanks!


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#12 2007-09-21 17:14:25

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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Hi Al,

Best of luck on your new CD !

On the subject of "paring-down" Japanese words/concepts, and giving them new meanings - it reminds me of a CD that I recorded for LYRICHORD DISCS about 10 CDs ago. I entitled it ICHI ON BUTTSU, instead of the more well-known saying- ICHI ON JO BUTTSU.

I felt that the slight difference for me signified "One sound.. Enlightenment" (or how one perfect sound can be the same as enlightenment), rather then the "becoming enlightened" from one sound.

My teacher (KURAHASHI YODO SENSEI... Yoshio's father) said that the reason that he played Shakuhachi was to find the perfect sound to cause World Peace- to become a Boddhisatva and wait until all sentient beings were enlightened before entering Nirvana himself.

It has given me a great goal to strive for every time i have picked up my flute for the past 34 years!

Ronnie


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#13 2007-09-21 18:02:49

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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

Let's all sit out in front of the White House and search for that one note.

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#14 2007-09-25 16:38:18

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Re: New honkyoku CD... Alcvin Takegawa Ramos... soon...

I got my CD yesterday and the sound quality and playing is great!  The CD, insert and packaging were all top notch.  This is a great contribution to the community.

Thanks!

Last edited by BrianP (2007-09-25 16:41:27)


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