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#1 2010-03-13 10:02:24

Christopher B.
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Bindings

Hi all,

I have a broken Xiao at home...it broke a long time ago. A few days ago I added my first bindings to this flute and it plays very well again. I used Perry´s booklet for the bindings and after some trys it worked quite well the only issue is that the bindings are a liitle bit loose at the first lines. Some tips how to fix that? If I try to get them tighter at the beginning the whole binding moves.

Thanks and all the best!


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#2 2010-03-13 12:13:49

edosan
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Re: Bindings

Christopher B. wrote:

...it worked quite well the only issue is that the bindings are a liitle bit loose at the first lines. Some tips how to fix that? If I try to get them tighter at the beginning the whole binding moves.

Get a piece of wood dowel (or scrap bamboo) about the same size as your flute, and practice. You'll get it.

Also, here's some more info which may be helpful:

       http://www.navaching.com/shaku/binding.html

And, read everything on this thread, some tips from Perry and others:

       http://www.shakuhachiforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=2198

Still, practice is the ticket.

Last edited by edosan (2010-03-13 12:34:07)


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#3 2010-03-13 14:12:21

Christopher B.
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Re: Bindings

Thanks alot ed!

I ordered some Nylon from a shop near me I just tried the first bindings with normal cord. I will keep practice before I bind my Shakuhachi.


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#4 2010-03-27 03:19:17

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Re: Bindings

You might find this youtube vid helpful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIXUpM2l_xI


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#5 2010-03-27 17:04:55

Karmajampa
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Re: Bindings

I am using a black waxed binding thread that is used to bind rope.
I find it grips better than nylon.

K.


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#6 2010-03-31 17:55:54

kodogenki
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Re: Bindings

I've never used waxed binding (though I've seen it used often enough).  How does the price compare to nylon?  (and if it's much cheaper, where can I get a hold of some?)


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#7 2010-03-31 18:57:57

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Re: Bindings

kodogenki wrote:

I've never used waxed binding (though I've seen it used often enough).  How does the price compare to nylon?  (and if it's much cheaper, where can I get a hold of some?)

The spool I have was purchased by a friend and gifted to me, I don't know it's price but would not think it would be too different to nylon.
I would enquire at any quality hardware outlet, canvas or tent repair craftsman, perhaps any outlet that stocks threads.

K.


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#8 2010-04-01 20:47:25

Itamar Foguel
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Re: Bindings

problem with waxed bindings is that it doesn't have any flexibility, ive seen bansuri with waxed binding that was so loose that u could just slip it off the flute, i recently got a nylon thread from a store that sells only threads, but i got a huge crack in one of my columns and my bindings didn't manage to keep it closed well enough, guess il have to tighten and glue them..and maybe also the crack...so i suggest gluing your bindings..or lacquering them...

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#9 2010-04-07 03:55:15

Mark Angevine
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Re: Bindings

Hi Itamar
I use Tuff cord which was recommended by Perry. Works great and you can find it on the internet.I'll also be bringing some back to Tel Aviv in a couple of months. Let me know if you want some.

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#10 2010-04-07 12:13:04

Taldaran
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Re: Bindings

What gauge of tuff cord?


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#11 2010-04-07 17:02:17

James J.
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Re: Bindings

Go to a fishing supply store and get some 20-40 pound fly fishing leader. 

Clamp the "loose" end to a solid object and start the binding.

Carefully grip the flute like bicycle handlebars and roll on the binding.

Keep some tension on the binding throughout the process. 

Practice on a dowel first until you can get nice neat bindings.

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#12 2010-04-07 18:24:16

Itamar Foguel
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Re: Bindings

what about the loop you need to get underneath? it dosnt let you to tie the loose end to anything...

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#13 2010-04-07 18:34:14

Itamar Foguel
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Re: Bindings

I just found what i got, it is called IPCBOND http://www.ipc-yarns.co.il/ipcabond.htm
its avg. strength is 38.8 KGS on the site they say it is used : "FOR SUPER STRONG SEAMS – SUCH AS MOCASSINS STITCHING, UPHOLSTERY

DECORATIVE BUTTONS, HEAVY DUTY PARACHUTES, HAND STITCHING, ETC."

http://www.ipc-yarns.co.il/asg/3.jpg

i got a white color one.

Last edited by Itamar Foguel (2010-04-07 19:13:57)

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